Comments on: Should White Nationalists leave the Holocaust alone? /2012/07/28/should-we-leave-the-holocaust-alone/ Whites Talking to Whites About White Interests Tue, 15 Apr 2014 21:47:02 +0000 hourly 1 https://wordpress.org/?v=5.0.22 By: Carolyn /2012/07/28/should-we-leave-the-holocaust-alone/#comment-841 Wed, 08 Aug 2012 21:34:42 +0000 /?p=1021#comment-841 The current German “republic” is legally based on the findings/conclusions of the Nuremberg Tribunals. This is direct American interference that will never go away. The Germans in government acquiesce to this; if they protested they would be legally removed for breaking the “law.” Someone might argue the German people could overcome this if they wanted, but those in power “don’t want.” Those in power are all leftists committed to a non-nationalist Germany. They use the “Holocaust” to convince Germans to go along with them, and that they owe an eternal debt to Jews. The Germans are not allowed to hear anything else. All nationalist voices are demonized.

Günter Deckert is going to be with me on Saturday Afternoon with Carolyn, August 11. Tune in live and ask him your questions.

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By: Armor /2012/07/28/should-we-leave-the-holocaust-alone/#comment-840 Wed, 08 Aug 2012 20:52:18 +0000 /?p=1021#comment-840 Previous comment: “Germany, twice destroyed by their very hodgepodge of a country [=the USA] and its kike string-pullers: first physically, then — and unceasingly since “Nuremberg” — spiritually.”

It’s claimed that Germany has been submitted to heavy influence by the American government since WWII. That is supposed to explain why it’s so dangerous to criticize the Jews in Germany. Actually, I don’t think that direct American interference is still a reality in Germany today. And also, Germany has fewer Jews than France. So, I wonder how it works, and why it seems more dangerous to criticize the Jews in Germany than in France.

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By: Carolyn /2012/07/28/should-we-leave-the-holocaust-alone/#comment-839 Wed, 08 Aug 2012 16:03:03 +0000 /?p=1021#comment-839 I don’t like doing this, but I will post this comment sent to me by a European. (Not a German.) But don’t expect me to do it again.

The most criminal aspect of the Weber-Johnson “white nationalist” clique’s attitude is the betrayal of the greatest white nation ever, Germany, twice destroyed by their very hodgepodge of a country and its kike stringpullers: first physically, then — and unceasingly since “Nuremberg” — spiritually. Underscore this fact please: it’s in their country that there exists the legal right to denounce this destruction. If they don’t use this right, and a fortiori if they advise others not to use it, then they’re just infected animals and should be taken to the vets and put down.

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By: Hadding /2012/07/28/should-we-leave-the-holocaust-alone/#comment-814 Tue, 07 Aug 2012 14:13:27 +0000 /?p=1021#comment-814 Euro American:

There is no indication in your first two posts that you heard the podcast. By now apparently you have listened to it at least once, but the argument that you use for why (quoting the title) “White Nationalists should leave the Holocaust alone” is not Greg Johnson’s argument at all. The question of whether some or all WNs are capable of making revisionist arguments was not part of the discussion.

Of course there are better and worse thinkers, better and worse speakers in WN. Your comments are gratuitously negative.

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By: Euro American /2012/07/28/should-we-leave-the-holocaust-alone/#comment-808 Tue, 07 Aug 2012 09:12:56 +0000 /?p=1021#comment-808 Hadding Wrote:

“What the hell Euro American’s point is supposed to be here is beyond me.

I think he ought at least to listen to the podcast before commenting. Neither of the comments that he has posted here is relevant to anything that we discussed.”

I did listen to the program. And IIRC, the question was whether WN’s should stay away from the “Holocaust” issue as proposed by Johnson. And I agree with that premise. And to address your previous post…

Yes, my point is crystal clear of running down White Nationalists. They deserve nothing but contempt. They are indeed the enemy of White Survival. Even more so than Jews. They will be the first to state that Whites should not network in real life and specifically go out of their way to insure that remains so.

I’ve been to all the WN sites, Stormfront, VNN, the Phora, etc. Anyone that presses the issue of why Whites remain on the net and are absent in real life networking are either ignored, insulted or banned. I’ve met WN at get togethers. They always have a Deer in the headlights look when I suggest such a heresy of networking. Bitching about Jews and consuming Becks is all they can muster. WN is a fraud.

But let’s digress. Greg Johnson is incorrect is his belief that the “Holocaust” is not the foundation of Jewish power. It is the pinnacle of their victimhood. And allows them to engage in political, military and financial crimes beyond reproach and without end. They are committing murder of not only White culture but of the entire world.

Therefore, someone needs to expose this agenda. Slowly, by proxy, this is occurring via the internet. But if there is to be a group to focus on this it should be those without the baggage and the fodder ADL feeds upon. Should the KKK be the ones to expose Black on White crime? The racism and injustice of Affirmative Action? Or should the Westboro Church be assigned the task of educating of the Gay agenda?

Would anyone prudent send someone to VNN forum for coherent information on Holocaust Revisionism or Carolyn’s Blog and Codoh?

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By: Hadding /2012/07/28/should-we-leave-the-holocaust-alone/#comment-805 Tue, 07 Aug 2012 03:05:35 +0000 /?p=1021#comment-805 What the hell Euro American’s point is supposed to be here is beyond me.

I think he ought at least to listen to the podcast before commenting. Neither of the comments that he has posted here is relevant to anything that we discussed.

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By: Euro American /2012/07/28/should-we-leave-the-holocaust-alone/#comment-804 Mon, 06 Aug 2012 21:02:56 +0000 /?p=1021#comment-804 Thomas Atkins wrote:

3. Most importantly, their agenda, sooner of later, will triumph over all the others because, as Kevin Macdonald points out, an organized minority will always beat down the defenses of an individualistic majority

The White “individualistic majority” referring to Whites is only a recent American phenomena. It does not exist in Europe. And it did not exist before 1980.

Rush Limbaugh dittohead, survivalist lunacy that has infected the American White.

*This* is why Whites are facing extermination in America. Yet every time anyone on a White oriented forum make note of the problem or asks for solutions…they are met with egregious and hostile responses.

If any of you think can sit on your keister in front of a keyboard all day pontificating bootstraps for Whites while crying that other ethnic groups work hard at networking….the White race will go extinct.

No amount of guns, cans of tuna or bunkers will save you. Either we begin to network, care and support each other…or we will die.

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By: Thomas Atkins /2012/07/28/should-we-leave-the-holocaust-alone/#comment-802 Mon, 06 Aug 2012 19:09:08 +0000 /?p=1021#comment-802 Let me try and understand the (serious)White racialist take on homosexuality.

The danger pro-White homosexuals pose to White Racialism is that:

1. They will network amongst themselves (as homosexuals always do)
2. Influenced by their different natures as homosexuals, they will reach flawed conclusions and advocate flawed strategies
3. Most importantly, their agenda, sooner of later, will triumph over all the others because, as Kevin Macdonald points out, an organized minority will always beat down the defenses of an individualistic majority
4. If Hadding is right about Greg then his New Right piece, along with his holocaust revisionism piece, could be seen as a coup attempt by the movement’s homosexual minority to take it over.
5. In light of all this, even if they do produce energetic, top-notch, intellectuals like Greg Johnson, it’s not worth the risk of including them.

In other words they’re Jews-lite.

If memory serves this is similiar to E. Michael Jones’ view and, incidentally, that’s the first and only time I’ve ever heard a serious critique of homosexuality.

Personally… I just don’t know & I’ll continue to suspend judgement. I’ll admit though that I also experienced your WTF moment when I read the 2 articles in question written by Johnson.

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By: Hadding /2012/07/28/should-we-leave-the-holocaust-alone/#comment-782 Sun, 05 Aug 2012 19:08:47 +0000 /?p=1021#comment-782 @Euro American

What you say has nothing specifically to do with revisionism. Your point here was really just to run down White Nationalists. Your position is that White Nationalists can do nothing right.

If the White Nationalists that you know are completely incompetent to do anything then I suggest you find a better crowd.

I wonder if you even listened to the discussion before posting your comment, because you really seem to have responded only to the title. The question is whether revisionism is helpful for White survival, not whether White Nationalists are competent to make revisionist arguments.

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By: Euro American /2012/07/28/should-we-leave-the-holocaust-alone/#comment-774 Sun, 05 Aug 2012 07:24:28 +0000 /?p=1021#comment-774 “Should White Nationalists leave the Holocaust alone?”

The clear answer would be yes and not necessarily because of the “Holocaust”.

White Nationalism is filled with agent saboteurs and/or useful idiots.
The last people on Earth that should try to educate the public of the utterly fantastic mythological claims of the Holocaust® should be WN’s.

If the reader recalls in the 1970’s a “Nazi” named Frank Collins
http://youtu.be/FW3jsTAnUFg

aka Francis Joseph Cohen lead the American Nazi Party for about 8 years. He held vulgar rallies and certainly to Carolyn’s chagrin, was instrumental in propping up the Holocaust and forever embedding it in the American vernacular.

All by design of course. Divide and conquer on steroids. Collins-Cohen plan was assisted by ACLU attorney David Goldberger with a rally in the “most densely populated Jewish community in America”. Collins-Cohen claimed he was helping the White community but only engaged in cartoony parades with “Niggers Beware” protest signs.

Nothing has changed. And nothing has been learned.

Every time Whites in America try to foment a noble attempt at activism, the WN shows up to defeat them. Either purposeful or by default.

Don Black knew full well that his now infamous deceptive photo op with Ron Paul would hurt his campaign. Ron Paul supporters had to spend their time explaining the truth of the matter. And less time on the issues.

During illegal immigration rallies the White Nationalist would show up to the amusement of the chosen organizer on the other side no doubt, and give ammunition to the enemies of America. The ego of the WN is more important that the invasion of 50 million illegal aliens.

Americans do not want to be lead or lectured by pseudo Nazis. The WN serves no purpose anymore. Even the proclaimed project by WN’s of “educating about the Jew” mantra is a non sequitur from the beginning. WN’s should not be the ones educating of anything and add the fact of most websites for years that allow free speech are “aware” of the problem. Finally, WN’s have not and never will do anything of substance to further the goals, civil rights and survival of the White race. Ever.

I would discuss what is needed but that is another issue.

As for the “Holocaust” there is good news. About 2 years after 9-11 I began to realize that the push for mass immigration came from a single source. The whole neocon phenomena was exposed for all to see.
Or the obvious “war on terror” with an open border. From that point on I was open to other arguments.

And here is our trump card. Many years ago I read an article that someone posted on a normal forum of Ernst Zundel’s imprisonment. The thread went on for a time until the owner got cold feet. In any event, I was perplexed of why someone would go to prison for speech, even kooky speech. And why are these laws in effect in more than a dozen European nations. The thread had links to the now famous “denier bud” videos.

The fact is that in any forum where little or no censorship is applied, any frank discussion of the events of WWII bring forth a bitter truth to behold.

Even now the hysterical emoters proclaiming the photos of dead bodies as “proof” are quickly debunked. It’s now almost a running joke on a number of forums when a thread is deleted…’Ah, it must have been about the chosen ones’.

In real life when the “Holocaust” comes up I say, “Hmm, it’s illegal in more than a dozen nations to question the historical facts. That’s all I really need to know.”

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