Comments on: Rodney Martin on Nadja, Greg and Mark /2012/08/04/rodney-martin-on-nadja-greg-and-mark/ Whites Talking to Whites About White Interests Tue, 15 Apr 2014 21:47:02 +0000 hourly 1 https://wordpress.org/?v=5.0.22 By: Carolyn /2012/08/04/rodney-martin-on-nadja-greg-and-mark/#comment-835 Wed, 08 Aug 2012 14:54:52 +0000 /?p=1084#comment-835

>>With all that said, I believe John McGhee (post above) could have said the same thing and in a more constructive manner, but chose not to do so.< < John I repeat myself above… this is all I am saying.

Robert – With all due respect for your feelings and your right to your perspective, you are not able to defend Mark Weber in the particulars, only in the general, i.e. he is doing some good and is “one of us” so we shouldn’t criticize him.

This is not good enough when we consider the task at hand. In his fund-raising appeals (now sent out once a week!) Weber claims to be “At the Vanguard.” Vanguard of what? He says: ” …the need for a vital and effective IHR has never been more urgent.” Followed by “…we’re struggling to pay the bills. That’s why I’m writing to ask for your help.” Weber’s telephone bills? And Weber’s salary, which no one would begrudge him IF he were a “vital and effective” leader. I noticed in his last VOR program that he was trying to sound more vital and energetic. He knows what his critics are saying, but it’s not in him to change his stripes.

To explain why he needs your help, the best he can come up with is:

“Week after week, we reach activists, students, educators and opinion-makers across the country and around the world, providing solid information and sound perspective on the Jewish-Zionist hold on our educational and political life, distortions of American history, World War II lies, myths about the Israel-Palestine conflict, the corrosive impact of Holocaust propaganda, and much more.”

Any website can claim the same, that they reach people. Notice he deals in “Holocaust propaganda” but does not question the Holocaust itself — this from what was once the premier, world-class Holocaust Revisionist organization. Pathetic. He continues:

Through meetings, broadcasts, lectures, interviews, online outreach, mailings, books, booklets, leaflets and audio and video discs, we supply “intellectual ammunition” that’s crucial for victory in the global battle for freedom and historical truth.

All old, and he actually does very little and to a dwindling number of local people. The only new information he brings is that which David Irving comes up with when Irving comes to the IHR office to promote his new book (which he can’t seem to get written). Pathetic!!

By donating to the IHR you have the satisfaction of knowing that you are raising public awareness and thereby helping to build a future that is more sane, socially healthy, and just.”

More of that vague-ary – nothing specific ever. It’s telling you that your money is going nowhere – you won’t see any results from it.

You can’t be constructive with someone like Weber. You have to put someone over him, to make him produce. The Board of Directors that Weber has put together will not do that. Weber should not be on his own Board of Directors. He should be replaced on the Board with a reform-minded, independent, business-saavy individual. The IHR is Weber’s own personal meal-ticket — exactly the charge that was made against Willis Carto when he headed it. Sending money into such a situation is a total waste.

Weber attends the major meetings and conferences of all the White Nationalist organizations (which aren’t free), such as AmRen and Greg Johnson’s ‘retreats’ in California. Who pays his entrance fee and transportation to these events when he isn’t a speaker? And who pays his hotel bill for two or more nights? This is the kind of outreach Mark Weber does. Does he ever talk to newspaper editors? Does he regularly send out statements in the form of press releases to the media? Does he try to have the IHR play any part at all on the larger stage? No, that would be “real work” and real commitment. MW is a coward.

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By: Robert Lloyd /2012/08/04/rodney-martin-on-nadja-greg-and-mark/#comment-831 Wed, 08 Aug 2012 13:11:17 +0000 /?p=1084#comment-831 >>With all that said, I believe John McGhee (post above) could have said the same thing and in a more constructive manner, but chose not to do so.<<

John I repeat myself above… this is all I am saying.

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By: John McGhee /2012/08/04/rodney-martin-on-nadja-greg-and-mark/#comment-819 Tue, 07 Aug 2012 23:54:28 +0000 /?p=1084#comment-819 Robert please tell me in my post or links about Mark Weber which I was wrong? I would be glad to correct any information you feel was wrong or a lie.

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By: Robert Lloyd /2012/08/04/rodney-martin-on-nadja-greg-and-mark/#comment-815 Tue, 07 Aug 2012 18:32:24 +0000 /?p=1084#comment-815 It is amazing to read all the hateful verbiage that a difference of opinion has created in this movement (and in other sites too). Holy cow! Because some have said they aren’t going to argue the holohoax anymore, that doesn’t mean we lose.

It means they are going to focus on other things, and yes, they could be wrong in doing so. But a lot of the research has been done and the Jews are guilty. Nothing has changed. And I am telling everyone I can about the holohoax and will continue doing so… even if Mr Weber is not or Mr Johnson is not. They are not my bosses, last I checked.

But to start beating up everyone we disagree with is childish. On Christianity, the Christians that make up a substantial portion of the WN movement is not the enemy of the WN atheist, and vice versa. Pick your enemies wisely, and don’t shoot the guy who most likely will be in the fox hole next to you when the time comes, and it will.

We have a problem within the Christian church with the Jewish financed Scofield KJV study bible. It has created the ‘Judeo-Christian’ which is an oxymoron in and of itself. But hey, I too was once a Judeo-Christian. Now I have been rescued and am a Christian. I’m also a White Nationalist, a Southern Nationalist, an amateur landscaper (my yard is one of the best:-)… so don’t throw out the baby because you have weeds in your yard. We are both White Nationalists, and I accept your weeds. (Well, as long as you aren’t my neighbor of course).

There aren’t too many in this movement any stronger in their beliefs than I am. I am a radical, and in no way a pacifist. I am not on the Jewish right and certainly not on the Jewish left. I am the enemy, no ifs, ands, or buts about it. Don’t think that because I see no gain in trashing someone, that I am sitting on the fence.

And I have suffered for my beliefs as much as anyone in here… probably more. I have lost a million dollars plus in net worth over my beliefs. Would I take it all back to get my money? Nope.

With all that said, I believe John McGhee (post above) could have said the same thing and in a more constructive manner, but chose not to do so. So we take two steps back.

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By: John McGhee /2012/08/04/rodney-martin-on-nadja-greg-and-mark/#comment-806 Tue, 07 Aug 2012 03:31:18 +0000 /?p=1084#comment-806 Mark Weber is a lazy, indolent do nothing scam artist. Revisionist publishing titan Germar Rudolf called Weber a “parasite”. Willis Carto was about to fire Weber from the Journal of Historical Review (JHR) and the IHR, because he just could not get the JHR published on time and regularly.

Weber is a sponger, who waits like a leech for the next death bequest to fund his salary and to pay his child support. Weber spends his day reading news articles, watching You Tube video’s and giving his employees two hour lectures. He accomplishes nothing during the day.

Mark Weber must resign from the Institute for Historical Review
http://robertfaurisson.blogspot.com/2009/04/mark-weber-must-resign-from-institute.html

He is very proud of the amount of donors money he has sent to pay the IHR lawyers bills. Leon Degrelle’s book “Campaign in Russia” reprint sits on Weber’s desk because he is too lazy to proof read the new edition.

Interesting thread on the Vanguard News Network Forum on the Weber/Johnson situation.
http://www.vnnforum.com/showthread.php?t=144074

The IHR is a DBA for the Legion for the Survival of Freedom (LSF), which was bought by Willis Carto in the seventies just before he started the IHR. The LSF has a 501c(3) status which the IHR uses.

Mark Weber has NEVER written a single book. Weber uses the IHR and it’s donors to supply him his $49,000 per year salary. He uses the IHR as a sinecure, an employment that offers a salary but has little work. The Board of Directors are stooges and yes men. They have been told time and time again about Weber’s indolence, nothing was done. Weber is on the IHR Board himself – conflict of interest?

http://markwebermustgo.blogspot.com/

LSF/IHR 2010 Tax REturns
http://nccsdataweb.urban.org/orgs/profile/741538110?popup=1#forms

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By: Britannia /2012/08/04/rodney-martin-on-nadja-greg-and-mark/#comment-801 Mon, 06 Aug 2012 18:46:53 +0000 /?p=1084#comment-801 The real point here which is the point that Carolyn makes over and over again is that we white people are facing extinction if we do not target all our resources wisely and efficiently and do so with a sense of urgency. I hate to sound like Alex Jones but there IS a war going on, a war our enemy is fighting with ferocity in many dimensions and which we as a people are not united in understanding is even taking place let alone responding adequatly to.

Reform of the IHR is not a luxury, it is a pressing necessity, the IHR is the leading battalion of our forces, it should be in an all-out hand to hand campaign to destroy the Holocaust lie, and fighting ferociously to capture the enemy forts one after another. For example I mentioned before to Carolyn that these forts include Himmler’s Posen speech which the IHR must demand be sent for independent analysis to check on the claim that they are not the original tapes, that something has been cut out and something inserted. We must go and check on all documents relating to Dr Josef Mengele, about whom Mark Weber somewhat conceded the Jewish position in an article without taking the trouble to go and check the facts in the archives before writing.

It’s really not about he said-she said folks, it’s about stopping the genocide of our race particularly now in England where it really is on the cards as the nightmare of the Olympics Opening ceremony demonstrated.

The sheer irrelevance and inconsequential output of most of IHR and VOR’s output in the face of ongoing white genocide only shows how disconnected the intellectuls can get from the reality.

Of course, Carolyn took the trouble to make her points in a previous programme and nothing happened. So now she has done it again in this programme. How about just concentrating on that central message and get on and get the job done rather than having a shouting match about inessential trivia and then going home and forgetting the whole thing?

C’mon.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M-82PKxWQmQ

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By: Carolyn /2012/08/04/rodney-martin-on-nadja-greg-and-mark/#comment-798 Mon, 06 Aug 2012 15:53:55 +0000 /?p=1084#comment-798 Thanks Brittania. My website, and connected email account, has been moved a few times already in the past 2 weeks. Some things have been lost, I’m afraid. So if anyone thinks I didn’t respond to something important, they can resend.

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By: Robert Lloyd /2012/08/04/rodney-martin-on-nadja-greg-and-mark/#comment-796 Mon, 06 Aug 2012 14:33:40 +0000 /?p=1084#comment-796 >>Fourth: Is Weber really talking about the unutterable? Give an example, if you can.<<

Carolyn (and others here)… Weber does not say the unutterable? My gosh, am I the only one that has listened to his podcasts on Voice of Reason. Anyone reading my post here, please just peruse the list of his topics… Mark Weber will NEVER be accepted in this neo-con society we live in.

It is like everyone here is piling on and no one is thinking what this is doing to new people that are reading this distrust.

Then we now have Franklin (and I enjoy many of Franklin's posts) making a wildly unsupported accusation that Weber is a Jew. And at least Carolyn came back to answer that with some common sense defense.

We are not immune to the "Hogs Don't Know Hogs Stink" syndrome when we are demonizing Weber for not writing the unutterable. Look at his topic list at VOR. We deal as a group in the unutterable and see it so much we are immune to Weber's contributions. Wouldn't we would love to see someone writing things he does in the New York Times and would consider that person a saint? Of course we would.

I am only saying, if the IHR is lacking in some areas, as in all business, eventually, a business creates it own competition. If the IHR is now lacking, someone else is going to surpass the IHR and become the new leader. That will be great, and so why live in the negative? We have so much in front of us.

My word… I have always been the radical, But here I am trying to cool the fire. I'm not comfortable to being in this position. BUT I BELIEVE I'M RIGHT!

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By: Rodney Martin /2012/08/04/rodney-martin-on-nadja-greg-and-mark/#comment-795 Mon, 06 Aug 2012 13:58:19 +0000 /?p=1084#comment-795 I do not have sufficient information as to the background of the IHR matter, i.e.the Weber Faction vs. the Carto Faction to make a public statement as to motivation. With that said, I will comment on the theory of Mark Weber being a possible Jewish plant. I see no merit in this at all. I believe the issue is indeed one of vision and leadership. Mark would be an outstanding lecturer. A Director of an “Institute”, and it must operate as an Institute, however, must be able to have a broad vision, be able to multi-task, and speak to a broad audience so as to broaden the appeal without retreat from core values, which the IHR has done. This damages credibility. I might also add having a Board that are essentially zombies doesn’t help either.

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By: Britannia /2012/08/04/rodney-martin-on-nadja-greg-and-mark/#comment-792 Mon, 06 Aug 2012 11:32:30 +0000 /?p=1084#comment-792 For any of us hurt by not having an answer to emails we now understand you have been held up taking fire from the eternal ememies of truth. Weiterkämpfen!

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