Comments on: Nationalism and the Holocaust: A Reply to Johnson /2012/08/08/nationalism-and-the-holocaust-a-reply-to-greg-johnson/ Whites Talking to Whites About White Interests Tue, 15 Apr 2014 21:47:02 +0000 hourly 1 https://wordpress.org/?v=5.0.22 By: Carolyn /2012/08/08/nationalism-and-the-holocaust-a-reply-to-greg-johnson/#comment-1126 Tue, 21 Aug 2012 18:47:20 +0000 /?p=1115#comment-1126 Speaking of the “gay” lifestyle, this fellow gives us a real clear idea. He wants to move to Seattle but is afraid it won’t work out as he hopes.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=liSklJMz_BY
Skip to: 7min 15sec to 8min 40sec, and then again 18:50 to the end. I have to admit I am repulsed by him because he is not a man, not a White man. He’s an aberrant male human being who in no way inspires respect, but, at best, sympathy. Can we afford to allow him to be a model for our males … to exhibit himself in public as perfectly normal and “okay?” I don’t think so.

It’s not good enough to just be White. Within the White community, we have to have other standards too.

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By: Carolyn /2012/08/08/nationalism-and-the-holocaust-a-reply-to-greg-johnson/#comment-1078 Sun, 19 Aug 2012 13:46:46 +0000 /?p=1115#comment-1078 This story just in. This is the kind of activism we need. And people need to get their heads clear about this issue.

MOSCOW (AP) — Some Russian activists have sued Madonna for millions of dollars, claiming they were offended by her support for gay rights during a recent concert in St. Petersburg.

Anti-gay sentiment is strong in Russia. In St. Petersburg, a law passed in February makes it illegal to promote homosexuality to minors, and the author of that law has pointed to the presence of children as young as 12 at Madonna’s concert on Aug. 9.

Russian news agencies quote Alexander Pochuyev, a lawyer representing the nine activists, as saying the suit was filed Friday against Madonna, the organizer of her concert, and the hall where it was held, asking for damages totaling 333 million rubles, or nearly $10.5 million.

Responding to criticism that the plaintiffs were stuck in the Middle Ages, the lawyer said they were using civilized, modern methods to defend their rights. “No one is burning anyone at the stake or carrying out an Inquisition,” Pochuyev was quoted by RIA Novosti as saying. “Modern civilization requires tolerance and respect for different values.”

The complaint includes a video taken at the concert showing Madonna stomping on an Orthodox cross and asking fans to raise their hands to show the pink armbands in support of gays and lesbians that were distributed among the audience, the new agency reported.

Madonna also has angered conservative Russians with her support for Pussy Riot. Three members of the punk band were sentenced Friday to two years in prison for a protest inside Moscow’s main cathedral against Vladimir Putin and his cozy relationship with the Russian Orthodox Church. [what biased wording from the AP! These women were not engaging in “freedom of speech” but in desecration. I wonder what would happen if 3 members of a revisionist band went into the Auschwitz Memorial Museum in Poland and “protested” in the manner the Pussy-girls did in the cathedral?-cy]

Madonna spoke out in support of the group during her concert in St. Petersburg and two days earlier in Moscow. After the verdict was issued, Madonna called on “all those who love freedom to condemn this unjust punishment.”

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By: katana /2012/08/08/nationalism-and-the-holocaust-a-reply-to-greg-johnson/#comment-1066 Sat, 18 Aug 2012 14:16:51 +0000 /?p=1115#comment-1066 I wrote this over at VNN:
http://www.vnnforum.com/showthread.php?t=144074&page=20

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By: Carolyn /2012/08/08/nationalism-and-the-holocaust-a-reply-to-greg-johnson/#comment-1061 Sat, 18 Aug 2012 06:47:32 +0000 /?p=1115#comment-1061 Thanks for speaking up, Mary. 🙂

I am following that thread over on VNN also.

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By: Mary /2012/08/08/nationalism-and-the-holocaust-a-reply-to-greg-johnson/#comment-1060 Sat, 18 Aug 2012 06:18:58 +0000 /?p=1115#comment-1060 No, I don’t think you are the only one Carolyn, lol.

This whole episode is proving to be an incredibly important ‘line in the sand’ for many I would think.
I find it fascinating, as along with what’s happening here, Alex Linder and Greg Johnson have quite the conversation going on over at VNN….

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By: Carolyn /2012/08/08/nationalism-and-the-holocaust-a-reply-to-greg-johnson/#comment-1058 Sat, 18 Aug 2012 02:11:52 +0000 /?p=1115#comment-1058 I may be (though I doubt it) the only person interested in this, but I’m finding it very interesting.

Cliff Bostock’s article list (he’s the homosexual columnist who interviewed Greg Johnson): http://www.soulworks.net/writings/paradigms/paradigms.html

About gay culture: http://www.soulworks.net/writings/paradigms/site_074.html

Gregory Johnson, private consultant, offers classes: http://clatl.com/atlanta/beauty-and-sin/Content?oid=1225318

Cliff Bostock – ” Next week, I’ll conclude this series on new forms of psychological growth with an interview with philosopher Greg Johnson. The two of us will be engaging in a public dialog at Borders in Buckhead at 7 p.m. Sunday, Aug. 22.” http://www.pantheatre.com/archives/pages/writings_cliff.htm

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By: Carolyn /2012/08/08/nationalism-and-the-holocaust-a-reply-to-greg-johnson/#comment-1048 Fri, 17 Aug 2012 03:56:12 +0000 /?p=1115#comment-1048 From Kant and Royce to Heidegger: Essays in Modern Philosophy

by Charles M Sherover, Brenda L Moore, Gregory R Johnson (Selected by)
http://www.alibris.com/booksearch?qwork=7577090&matches=6&cm_sp=works*listing*title

Who is Brenda L. Moore? http://library.buffalo.edu/libraries/units/archives/womens_work/bios/moore.htm
Also: http://sociology.buffalo.edu/faculty_staff/faculty/moore/
http://www.alibris.com/search/books/author/Moore%2C%20Brenda%20L/aid/3458554

Building Bodies
by Brenda L. Moore

Building Bodies is an exciting collection of articles that strive toward constructing theoretical models in which power, bodies, discourse, and subjectivity interact in a space we can call the “built” body, a dynamic, politicized, and biological site. Contributors discuss the complex relationship between body building and masculinity, between the built body and the racialized body, representations of women body builders in print and in film, and homoeroticism in body building. Linked by their focus on the sport and practice of body building, the authors in this volume challenge both the way their various disciplines (media studies, literary criticism, gender studies, film and sociology) have gone about studying bodies, and existing assumptions about the complex relationship between power, subjectivity, society, and flesh. Body building – in practice, in representation, and in the cultural imagination – serves as an launching point because the sport and practice provide ready challenges to existing assumptions about the “built” body. http://www.goodreads.com/book/show/558843.Building_Bodies

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By: Hadding /2012/08/08/nationalism-and-the-holocaust-a-reply-to-greg-johnson/#comment-1047 Fri, 17 Aug 2012 03:48:16 +0000 /?p=1115#comment-1047

The United Nations definition can be useful.

Only if you are talking to somebody that cares what the UN thinks.

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By: Hadding /2012/08/08/nationalism-and-the-holocaust-a-reply-to-greg-johnson/#comment-1046 Fri, 17 Aug 2012 03:44:10 +0000 /?p=1115#comment-1046 The observation that Kant derived ideas from Swedenborg is not original with Greggy. Nietzsche mentioned it in one of his books.

I find it amusing that a man with a doctorate in philosophy had to be lectured by me on the importance of defining terms (like “the Holocaust”) to be used in any discussion that is to have any hope of a clear outcome. As a philosopher Greg Johnson is a quack.

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By: Armor /2012/08/08/nationalism-and-the-holocaust-a-reply-to-greg-johnson/#comment-1040 Thu, 16 Aug 2012 22:17:09 +0000 /?p=1115#comment-1040 About the concept of genocide:

The etymology of the word means killing a nation. It doesn’t mean killing members of that nation. There is a useful quote of Raphael Lemkin who coined the word:

“Generally speaking, genocide does not necessarily mean the immediate destruction of a nation, except when accomplished by mass killings of all members of a nation. It is intended rather to signify a coordinated plan of different actions aiming at the destruction of essential foundations of the life of national groups, with the aim of annihilating the groups themselves. The objectives of such a plan would be the disintegration of the political and social institutions, of culture, language, national feelings, religion, and the economic existence of national groups, and the destruction of the personal security, liberty, health, dignity, and even the lives of the individuals belonging to such groups.”

It sounds a little strange because it doesn’t sound at all like a description of Hitler’s policy towards the Jews. It looks more like the description of a policy of forceful assimilation of a small nation by a bigger nation. I guess a number of European countries have tried to do that to the Jews. In the 1920s, 1930s, and 1940s, some Jews like Lemkin probably tried to present the Jewish nation as a minority comparable to the South Tyroleans, the Slovaks or the Sorbs, as if they were Europeans. The emphasis was on the right of a national minority to resist assimilation. I’m sure that the decision of the United Nations to give a definition of genocide had a lot to do with Jewish activism.

What is funny is that Lemkin’s and the United Nations’ definition is completely at odds with today’s Jewish strategy. It is no longer acceptable to compare the Jews with European minorities. The suffering of the Jews is unique. Comparing them to the Tyroleans would be an insult.

Today’s official Jewish narrative is that the Europeans tried to kill all the Jews, and for no reason at all. So, the meaning of the word “genocide” had to be revised. According to the new Jewish definition, genocide is the “systematic killing of a racial or cultural group”. It is a synonym of mass murder. It isn’t difficult to change the dictionary definition. The Jews own a number of publishing houses. Other publishing houses were simply asked to make the change too. At least, I guess it worked like that. It would be interesting to find a 1960 dictionary with a definition of the word genocide.

The United Nations definition can be useful. If I argue with people that the government wants to kill the White race, they will tell me that I’m out of my mind. If I mention the UN definition and some demographic predictions, I may be more convincing.

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