Comments on: White Identity, Suppressed and Repressed /2012/09/04/white-identity-suppressed-and-repressed/ Whites Talking to Whites About White Interests Tue, 15 Apr 2014 21:47:02 +0000 hourly 1 https://wordpress.org/?v=5.0.22 By: David Baillie /2012/09/04/white-identity-suppressed-and-repressed/#comment-1635 Sun, 09 Sep 2012 04:49:23 +0000 /?p=1382#comment-1635 A side note to Hadding seeing as he brought it up on this thread. Gottfried Feder’s books make good artifacts and interesting reading I am sure. But the Movement will not rise or fall on them, and it is obvious from the whole Ron Paul movement that lots of people understand the core message, if interested at all in what someone in the Third Reich had to say, they can read Mein Kampf, Hitler devotes a fair amount of space to usury and the international stick exchange and finance capital, without beating it into the ground.

I work for a living and I contribute what I can to the cause freely for the love of my people and in hopes that my kids will have a better future in their own country. I think you and Rodney should dispense free pdf’s of the book and if you must make money, print up hard copies for distribution the libraries and whoops.

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By: David Baillie /2012/09/04/white-identity-suppressed-and-repressed/#comment-1634 Sun, 09 Sep 2012 02:50:04 +0000 /?p=1382#comment-1634 Funny how THE most overtly pro-WN Christian sect, CI, draws such vitriol from ignorant poseurs who claim to be White Advocates. Even insinuating that it is mentally unsound!!! Talk about chutzpah!!! This from people who have no belief or faith they can express save love of their own personal skins. Not for nothing Jimmah or ZOG, but I would not trust either of you to watch my back in a foxhole or firefight. You would be running for the hills as soon as the poop hit the fan. Your skipping out on us now would serve the cause better than your hanging around sewing dissension. Just my personal opinion.

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By: David Baillie /2012/09/04/white-identity-suppressed-and-repressed/#comment-1633 Sun, 09 Sep 2012 02:41:15 +0000 /?p=1382#comment-1633 http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/religion/9529123/Vatican-official-says-Israel-fostering-intolerance-of-Christianity.html

Looks like they are doing it right here too!!!

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By: Jimmy Marr /2012/09/04/white-identity-suppressed-and-repressed/#comment-1627 Sat, 08 Sep 2012 23:08:40 +0000 /?p=1382#comment-1627 “You continue to twist things just enough to provide yourself with some kind of a comeback.”

Like a serpent, perhaps?

Sure, I do. I just do it openly and take responsibility for it. I hope you didn’t think my reference to the “federal reservists” was THE WORD OF GOD, or some such nonsense.

I’m a heretic for Christ’s sake. I thought you were too?

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By: Z.O.G. /2012/09/04/white-identity-suppressed-and-repressed/#comment-1626 Sat, 08 Sep 2012 22:56:32 +0000 /?p=1382#comment-1626 Christian Identity is a bizarre American offshoot of British Israelism. British Israelism was founded by a mentally ill 18th century British Zionist named Richard Brothers.

Richard Brothers
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Richard_Brothers

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By: Z.O.G. /2012/09/04/white-identity-suppressed-and-repressed/#comment-1625 Sat, 08 Sep 2012 22:55:06 +0000 /?p=1382#comment-1625 To even seriously entertain Christian Identity for one minute, one has to be almost completely ignorant of:

1. History
2. Archaeology
3. Linguistics
4. Philosophy
5. Theology

It’s very difficult to take seriously anyone who takes Christian Identity seriously.

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By: David Baillie /2012/09/04/white-identity-suppressed-and-repressed/#comment-1624 Sat, 08 Sep 2012 22:34:57 +0000 /?p=1382#comment-1624 And no, Yeshuasid not say the Children of YHWH were the bad ones, duh. He said the bad figs were NOT the true children of God. If you are going to complain about CI at least KNOW what the hell you are talking about.

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By: David Baillie /2012/09/04/white-identity-suppressed-and-repressed/#comment-1623 Sat, 08 Sep 2012 22:32:35 +0000 /?p=1382#comment-1623 No, that is not so at all Hadding. I have been an agnostic most of my life and still in fact don’t profess to be a 100% believer. I have personal reasons for favoring my belief in God, some of it attached to psychic episodes I’ve had, others involving a recent crash I had in which I could not only have been killed during the crash itself but the hour or so wandering around in subfreezing weather at 2AM totally stunned. That being said, our earliest civilizations embraced gods and notions of there being more than this life. It is a major hallmark of the Aryan man. I can easily accept that the Bible was written by men and is an amalgamation of various stories that are likewise found in older and concurrent societies of the time. There are in fact stories that are not in the cannon that harken to Greek and Viking mythologies which are also almost identical. When you strip out aspects that are mythos, or spiritual in nature, the Bible quite clearly becomes a history book written in a language formulated by an agrarian people that describes their attempt to remain unblemished by intermixing with other races. It is right there in the proper translations of their language. Adam, to show blood in the face, Arab, to be mixed, fornication, the pursuit of strange or different flesh, sheep and goats, wheat and tears, Eassau losing his inheritance because of marrying Hittite women, the descriptions of Israelites as White, etc. it is all there and when you see what is going on TODAY, it is only too clear that it has happened before and the whole point of the Bible is to WARN us how it happened, who the enemy is, and how it is our perpetual weakness to stray even from the Word of our God that keeps landing us in trouble.

I will say that I agree that this Rightist claptrap is a bugaboo. Revili Oliver was anti-Socialist, and I would conclude that while he sympathized with NS Germany and understood that Hitler and he shared a common enemy, he might have some issues with NS in the long run. Even as erudite and well spoken a man as he was too willing to play loose and easy with terms like Socialism and apply them to his analysis of ancient Egypt, instead of going back to the historical record and noting the changes that took place to Egypt’s racial make up during the Middle Period.

I don’t know Peters, but I know Bill Finck, and his ability to synchronize Biblical lore with the archaeological and secular written histories (which I am familiar with) works for me. There is also no question that Hitler was indeed a man with Christian principles. Am I to throw Hitler under the bus because Jimmah or anyone else thinks there is nothing of value in Christianity? No, I don’t think so. Furthermore, I fail to see what is so damned objectionable with Christianity save the current philo-Judaic aspects of it. I know plenty of agnostics and atheists that are very Jew happy as in reality, most Jews are Liberals and atheists. Do if you think you will will over all the anti-theological types, you are dead wrong, they tend towards liberalism, hence are already closer to the enemy than Judeo-Christian buffoons. Hence I would rather turn those Christians towards realizing they are being deceived and get them into our camp. I would use 9/11 to show Ehites at large that we have an Israel problem and that means a Jew problem as 80% of all Jews are Zionist to some degree. Same with the current wars, Palestine, the Iranan issue, the anti-White agenda across the board by Jews shown in their hatred of all White nationalism from the French Revolution to the Bolshevik Revolution, the Spanish Revolution to the flattening of NS Germany right up to the bombing of Serbia and bringing down Rhodesia and South Africa. It is all there, the Jews admit to being at the very least cheerleaders for all of these tragedies though we can show their active participation in all of them.

We need to attack the enemy with EVERY arrow in out quill. So I do not see any reason for this kind of infighting save people’s own idiosyncrasies and egos. Period. We need to organize squads to attack THEM on different fronts. Let’s go after Pollard to see him executed. Let’s stop kosher slaughter in this country, Thr kosher tax, circumcision. DO SOMETHING, but don’t come here a stab me or CI or Odinists or Christianity or whatever in the back because you have your own twist on certain aspects of spirituality or lack thereof. If you are on board with saving the White race, then aim your guns at the enemy and open fire on THEM. Is that do damned hard?

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By: Carolyn /2012/09/04/white-identity-suppressed-and-repressed/#comment-1622 Sat, 08 Sep 2012 21:59:34 +0000 /?p=1382#comment-1622

Aside from Jesus’ driving of the federal reservists from the house of righteousness, my preferred passage is the one in which he identifies the children of Yahweh as the offspring of a deceiver.

I don’t think Jesus identified “the children of Yahweh” as the offspring of a deceiver. It was the Pharisees he was speaking to. You continue to twist things just enough to provide yourself with some kind of a comeback.

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By: Hadding /2012/09/04/white-identity-suppressed-and-repressed/#comment-1618 Sat, 08 Sep 2012 18:12:21 +0000 /?p=1382#comment-1618 The use of the term Mammonism as a derogatory name for the Capitalist ethos comes from Thomas Carlyle, and was used by some others after him.

Gottfried Feder was a Catholic from Wuerzburg, Bavaria, where most people are Catholic. I suspect significant influence of Catholic social thought in his ideas.

What Feder says in the last section of his Manifesto shows that he does not believe in anything like CI (if that’s what was meant):

[M]y proposal does not want to try to improve human nature; rather it applies itself against a toxic substance, against a phenomenon that was artfully – no, diabolically – invented, completely contrary to the deepest feeling of man, in order to make humanity ill, in order to ensnare humanity in materialism, in order to rob from it the best thing that it has, the soul. Hand in hand next to it goes the frightful, pitiless tyranny of the money-powers, for which people are only interest-slaves, exist only to work for the dividend, for interest.

Deeply troubled we recognize the frightful clarity and truth of the old Biblical proverbs, according to which the god of the Jews Yahweh promises to his chosen people: “I want to grant to you to own all treasures of the world; at your feet shall lie all peoples of the Earth and you shall rule over them.” (Hadding Scott translation, 2012)

I think we would have to say that Feder’s attitude toward the Old Testament is ambivalent. He derives some support from it, like the year of jubilee as an argument against the sanctity of interest, but also sees a menace to the world in the Book of Isaiah.

You know, Rodney Martin only published those excerpts from Feder because he is trying to elbow me absolutely out of the spotlight. He’s talking up a book that isn’t even available yet, claiming that it is the best version (which can only reasonably be construed as a comparison to my work that he hasn’t seen), obviously in reaction to the fact that I posted on here a few days ago that I had already completed my translation and that I would be discussing it with Carolyn soon. I can’t say that nobody else is entitled to do what I am doing — or pay somebody else to do it as in this case — but this kind of competitive self-promotion seems to me rather indecent.

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