The notion of solving world hunger by having everybody convert to vegetarianism is ridiculous. Blacks in Africa are subject periodic famines not because there is insufficient food in the world, but because they failed to produce their own food and also do not have money to buy it from elsewhere. Think about international food-relief: what is that? It’s not about producing food that otherwise wouldn’t exist. It’s basically just somebody else putting up the money to buy food that already exists. Insufficient food in the world is not a problem.

As a matter of fact, the USA grossly overproduces food and, if we all stopped eating meat, that problem would be much worse.

Now, for Germany under Adolf Hitler, which was trying to become economically self-sufficient (to the extent possible) and did not have the vast farmlands that the USA has, vegetarianism made sense economically. It was a way to rely less on imports and thus eliminate a drain on the country’s prosperity. Discouraging tobacco-use, by the way, was also a way to help Germany’s trade-balance.

There was a compelling economic reason for vegetarianism in Hitler’s Germany that has no validity for us today.

>To say that Hitler’s greatest mistake was being a vegetarian is to me beyond stupid, especially if you don’t back up your “hypothesis” with reason.

The reason is that his poor diet would cloud his judgement.

I don’t say that Hitler’s diet clouded his judgement. That’s the wrong phrasing. I say that it affected his health, therefore his energy and sense of well-being. But exactly what can be attributed to diet is hard to say. We don’t really know all the possible sources of his later health problems, but they must also have been exacerbated by the intense stress he was under. He had competent doctors and they basically couldn’t find anything wrong with him beyond symptoms of digestive distress. If he had the idea he couldn’t digest meat or fat (I have recently read that), I think that was all in his head, and manifested in his body. Of course, I believe all meat should be eaten as rare as possible. I only eat high-quality, grass fed beef, (but still slightly marbled so it’s not totally grass-fed although they call it that) and pay a high price for it. I’m not talking about hamburgers. Broiled to be brown on the outside but still red on the inside — it leaves you feeling great!

But I agree that vegetarian dishes are (can be) delicious. I would have no trouble giving up meat. I actually eat it for health reasons. Exactly backwards from what Hitler thought. Vegetarianism does come from a “save the planet (for the non-whites), be kind to animals” world-view so maybe it is another Jew-agenda against us. Jews are big meat-eaters themselves. Vegetarianism is based on Philosophy and “mind over matter,” not on scientific findings of what the physical body demands for optimum health.

>I couldn’t believe my ears when you ventured into an area you clearly know very little about. Vegetarianism. I have yet to see a vegetarian who is obese.

There’s plenty of obese vegetarians. If they overeat their carbs it’s a natural outcome.

>They don’t seem to suffer from cancer particularly colon cancer to the extent meat eaters do, or heart disease. Most of all they vibrate at a higher level spiritually. Put another way they tread lightly on the planet.

So what about Hitler? Did he tread lightly while vibrating highly?
In any case, I also think he made a mistake by adopting vegetarianism.

>To say that Hitler’s greatest mistake was being a vegetarian is to me beyond stupid, especially if you don’t back up your “hypothesis” with reason.

The reason is that his poor diet would cloud his judgement.

>If he was on amphetamines, as you state above, maybe he would not have been had he had a different kind of life with less pressure. He probably had a meat eater prepare his food for him. Not a good idea if you are a vegetarian.

Why? Do you think the meat eating cook would somehow ‘spiritually’ contaminate Hitler’s vegetarian food?

> Being a vegetarian is not about meat and two veg. minus the meat! Nor is it eating salad all day long! Vegetarian food prepared properly and done thoughtfully is highly nutritious. There is absolutely no need to eat meat.

There’s a difference between surviving and thriving. To do the latter you need to eat meat. By accounts we have eaten only meat and some vegetables and some fruit for 99% of human existence. Little to no grain based foods that are a large part of vegetarian diets.

>Carolyn, how many cows or pigs or sheep have you personally gone out and killed, skinned and gutted etc, in order for you to get your roast beef or whatever ?

How many products that you use have you personally constructed; worked in mines, foundries and factories to create? Hitler was against the cruel kosher slaughter methods that jews use. All decent people think animals should be killed in as a humane way as possible.

>I have to go into the butchers to buy dog meat, and I find the smell obnoxious. I doesn’t matter how clean the buthery is, I can’t wait to get of there.
And there is a bit of arrogance in me. I look on meat eaters with a certain amount of contempt.

Your contempt looks like it is born of a religious form of vegetarianism. I suggest you goggle for the stories from ex-vegetarians. Read how they, through ill health, eventually gave it up.

Vegetarianism looks like a just another jew ideology designed to weaken us.

Carolyn, Thanks for addressing Onkel Adolf’s dietary habits. It’s a subject that needed some clarification, at least for me.

It’s not certain that Hitler had Parkinson’s disease. It is true that lack of good nutrition – superior nutrition – causes all kinds of eventual failures in the body which can lead to problems that have been given diagnosed names, without being able to show a direct cause/effect relationship.

Hitler’s diet was really inadequate. Yes, he had usually at least one egg a day, sometimes several, usually soft-boiled. A staple seemed to be creamed potatoes with some other vegetables. He had soups – potato soup often. He had desserts, with a weakness for apple cake, and would have a few cookies or cake at tea-time. He ate sparingly though. IMO, he was undernourished, but he believed that more would be too hard on his digestive system. This mostly showed up after 1940 though. He was under incredible pressure, so stomach problems are understandable. But he just didn’t treat it right.

You men are all carried away with the theoretical program and myths (understandable), and don’t want to see the real biological men. The caretakers are the ones that see this. And the biology determines so much.

Hitler was often emphatic that those who do not understand Wagner do not understand National Socialism.

If there was a shred of evidence that vegetarianism causes Parkinson’s I would be able to give these comments some respect.