You’re completely wrong. How do the winners in this society do it? They ad hominem until their lungs fall out. it’s all they ever do. They literally never argue for their position, all they do is smear their opponents. And it works.

In some ways I think Alex Linder never left The American Spectator.

What Linder seems to be describing there is the kind of rhetoric that is used by party-nominees running for office in the unfortunate two-party system with which we are saddled. In this system, the general election is won by being all things to all people. This can be accomplished by personally attacking the opposing candidate while, to the extent possible, avoiding issues. In this way a fragile coalition of people that really don’t agree on very much can be cobbled together perhaps long enough to get past election-day.

I mentioned in my last essay for TOO that electoral politics and White advocacy are distinct matters that require distinct approaches. Regardless of whatever bullshit works in electoral politics, the movement for White interests must lie fundamentally outside of electoral politics and must be grounded in truth in order to last.

This above is a good example of how no one is as dumb as a smart guy.

I appreciate that, and I want to say that I think that Alex Linder is a smart guy too, and I have noticed that he has a lot of smart guys and smart gals on his forum as well, sharing his interest in ad hominem rhetoric.

If you rely heavily on an irrational form of rhetoric, the kinds of people that you attract will tend not to be of a rational sort.

Not just any nut, smarty, but a Brazil nut, because it resembles the toe of a Negro. It must be a southern thing — you know, from the White southern Americans you despise, insult and smear with your oh-so-brilliant ad hominem to get them to follow you to wherever it is you fantasize taking them.

Linder @ Hadding: “You’re completely wrong. How do the winners in this society do it? They ad hominem until their lungs fall out. it’s all they ever do. They literally never argue for their position, all they do is smear their oppoents. And it works.

“If you attack people by name, their supporters will assume you are strong and right. And if the man doesn’t respond, and the two are remotely on the same level (so it can’t be played off as some critic not worth taking note of) them the non-respondent will be seen as weak, and begin to lose his followers to the attacker…”
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How does that work when you continually attack a righteous White man on your forum, by name, with your patented ad hominem smears and insults — a man who agrees with your radical positions on Christianity, race and the Jew for the most part — but is not allowed to respond to your attacks of him because you permabanned him from your sandbox years ago? Who is seen as weak then? Or cowardly? Who believes your betters like Kevin McDonald or Kevin Strom will ever stoop to respond to your calculated ad hominem smears of them at VNN?

The difference between you and the obnoxious Federal prisoner and Hollywood Nazi Bill White is that he admitted to attacking his betters in hopes that they would respond, therefore, to his twisted thinking, elevating him to their level; whereas you attack them in the hope that they will not respond, therefore “proving” you are strong and they are weak.

Were I to build a movement — a real world one as opposed to your Internet “spintro” fan club — I’d take one serious, ultra-dedicated, truth-telling Hadding Scott and one serious, ultra-dedicated, truth-telling Kevin Strom over 100 of you and 100 Bill Whites with your childish, calculated insults and smears, and overblown egos, and start building in southern Appalachia with them by telling simple unvarnished truths to the very people you so despise. The more you were to smear our efforts with your foolish attacks, the less attention we were to pay you, the more the serious, and sincere followers of Dr. Pierce’s teachings would prefer joining their strength to ours.

Soberly and consistently telling cold, hard truths: that’s what works! That’s what attracted men like Kevin, Hadding, me and thousands of others to Dr. Pierce. I don’t know why you ever joined our Alliance; you’ve done nothing but badmouth it and us and try to associate us with Erich Gliebe for the past decade. How many former, real world Alliance members have you convinced to “follow” you by that strategy?

Why do you not attack Golden Dawn for being an explicitly Christian movement so as to win its followers over to your Internet VNN-team? You can’t, that’s why. You are inconsistent and contradictory by hitching your “vanguard” wagon to GD’s star and are in no position to tell the truth all the time. Your words, above, reveal this: “It makes no sense to get into a battle on the religious front.”

Times are bad because of big government.

Not exactly.

Yeah I know Linder. We’ve established that you’re a Reaganite with attitude. But Reaganism is delusional and simplistic. Reaganism is a political superstition that has to be overcome. It’s bad for getting votes as well as bad policy.

A large part of the support for Ron Paul was anti-war and anti-establishment. I would have voted for him on that basis even though his economic ideas are wrong.

The question should be how best to reach out to people that follow conservatism. I would submit that an ad hominem attack on their hero is not a good way.

This above is a good example of how no one is as dumb as a smart guy.

You’re completely wrong. How do the winners in this society do it? They ad hominem until their lungs fall out. it’s all they ever do. They literally never argue for their position, all they do is smear their oppoents. And it works.

Others are not like you, Hadding. You’re confusing your own preference with dmonstrated, manifest reality.

If you attack people by name, their supporters will assume you are strong and right. And if the man doesn’t respond, and the two are remotely on the same level (so it can’t be played off as some critic not worth taking note of) them the non-respondent will be seen as weak, and begin to lose his followers to the attacker. Jared Taylor can’t pop his smarmy lying head up without getting attacked by those who pose my questions to him. He’s still around, yes, he hasn’t died yet like Sam Francis, but no one is scared of him, and that means no one takes him serious. Which is as it should be. He is a clown, a liar, and an anti-White, and his very existence is proof there is no real White movement – yet.

Religions that offend the Greek tradition and history and damage the strength of the nation will be banned. Greek Orthodoxy reborn once again, will be a pioneer in the struggles of the nation.

That is what they say – now. In my opinion they are insincere, and making a mistake. Their entire history, on view in their magazine, is racialist in the way we’re all familiar with. Now, on the verge of serious power, they are faced with a wide array of enemies, domestic and foreign. It makes no sense to get into a battle on the religious front too. So they downplay their own past and present a united front with the church when it comes to such things as going after, say, Corpus Christi, a play by a fag depicting Jesus and the disciples as fags.

In my view, Golden Dawn is making a mistake. Already the top Orthodox guy in Greece has denounced the party, as have lesser clerics. They have found the stray one to bless their office, but the ones at the top, and many of the rank and file, already attack the party, and will continue to do so, and with greater fervency, as GD’s power grows and as they are urged to by the usual international forces. And then again, as I point out tirelessly, the jebus cult is universalist. That cannot be changed. That’s why you find in Greece the church is perfectly willing to aid these noxious pest illegal aliens from Pakistan and Nigeria. What does the church care? One man is as good as another.

In any case, anyone who tries to sell you that Golden Dawn is a christian cultural conservative party as we are long familiar with in the West is completely wrong. It’s something else entirely – the real thing.

Vegetablers can be healthy, but they are certainly guilty of bad taste, which is a worse crime than bad health. Meat tastes better than vegetables. That’s why normal people eat meat. Along with it being the best source of proteins. If you want to scramble around like a mouse nibbling on beans and nuts, go for it, but you’ll notice that vegetarians are the only eaters who feel the need to defend what they eat, and that’s because meat is so damn good only a nut would give it up. Meat has to be lied about it’s so good – all the garbage about it causing heart attacks is a staple lie in the mass media, akin to diversity being a strength. If you have to argue, a vegetarian meal can be just as tasty as X meat dish, you’ve already lost and become absurd. You never see anyone say something like “Cooked properly, a steak can be just as tasty as quinoa with chickpeas and tomatoes.” If you choose to reject one of the greatest physical pleasures in this world, that’s your business, but don’t expect others to see you as anything but a nigger toe (and that’s an old-school term for a nut).

This is far overrated as a problem. The real problems are

1) defining “we”
2) figuring out what “we” want
3) figuring out how to structure an organization so that the leadership kernel is protected

I have the answers to the first two (see my Strategy section); the third is more a technical matter than anything. A party or organization can spring up overnight — Tea Party, for instance. It means little unless the organization knows who it is and what it wants. As the tea party did not, hence it’s being coopted into more feckless, gelded conservatism by the Glenn Becks.

Also, the mindset is far too much in the democratic voting vein when the thing that really matters is protection – both physical fighting and intellectual/electronic security. This is what Golden Dawn’s example shows. If you have the ability to fight and protect your core, then even a 7% in the voting booth is enough to scare the power structure into openly talking about banning your group! Think about that. The irony is that even National Socialists like Hadding are trapped in the conservative democratic-pandering mindset I made fun of.

Which is it Hadding? Do you want a master state that dictates what kind of toilet paper we can buy? Or do you want to walk around all genial and grinny, asking middle-class women what you can do to make their lives more pleasant?

Killing the enemy does work. That’s how the enemy took power, after all.

Like most Westerners he seems to be entirely unaware of the existence of true Christianity as opposed to false, Judaized Western ‘Judeo-Christianity’ (which is in reality an oxymoron)…

Every single subset of the jebus cult claims it and it alone represents true christianity. It’s one thing, among many others, that makes the thing a joke and a waste of time. Imagine if science were like religion! Where every single nattering nut claims his number is the REAL freezing point. Religion is thinking for people who can’t think. It must be taken into account as a political factor, but in no other way.