Comments on: Treaties of Saint-Germain and Trianon – How they reshaped Central and Southeastern Europe /2013/02/19/treaties-of-saint-germain-and-trianon/ Whites Talking to Whites About White Interests Tue, 15 Apr 2014 21:47:02 +0000 hourly 1 https://wordpress.org/?v=5.0.22 By: rodney@rodneymartin.com /2013/02/19/treaties-of-saint-germain-and-trianon/#comment-12368 Thu, 21 Feb 2013 02:24:33 +0000 /?p=3420#comment-12368 Carolyn:

A few comments Re: Jews and their hands on WWI., it was obvious with WWII, but you briefly mention it here. The “Serbian Jew” who killed the Archduke and his wife was a agent of Serbia, Austra-Hungary, in reply to Serbia’s action mobilized against Serbia, who was alligned with Russia, who was alligned with France, Austria-Hungary was inturn alligned with Germany, thus Germany mobilized against Russia when it mobilized against Austria-Hungary in defense of Serbia, thus France mobilized against Germany in defense of of its alliance with Russia. Britain, nearly sat WWI out, but did have an alliance with France and Churchill and the London Jews who actually pushed over the dominos in the Balkins brought England in, remember, Churchill always had a fixation with the “Balkins”. Yes, the Jews were behind WWI, it was their effort to end Old Europe and usher in Bolshevism. They got it in Russia, one of their two primary objectives and nearly got in their second, save for the National Sociaists.

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By: Carolyn /2013/02/19/treaties-of-saint-germain-and-trianon/#comment-12333 Wed, 20 Feb 2013 20:56:29 +0000 /?p=3420#comment-12333 To Florin – I am not going to publish your 4 or 5 comments since they do not directly impact on the program. I don’t have the time to read and discuss in depth the history of Romania and I’m not going to give you free rein to spam this site. Sorry.

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By: Carolyn /2013/02/19/treaties-of-saint-germain-and-trianon/#comment-12298 Wed, 20 Feb 2013 15:51:10 +0000 /?p=3420#comment-12298

But to support my point that Austria and Germany are actually one entity that has been separated by various reasons,

I never said otherwise in the program or here in the comments or anywhere, so I don’t know why you need to ‘support’ your point, but you’re welcome to make it. You are right about the Austrians being more nationalistic, but one can come up with several reasons for that besides spirituality. But it might be that. It’s an open and interesting question.

It’s not my style to play national anthems, especially to a wide, mixed audience.

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By: Markus /2013/02/19/treaties-of-saint-germain-and-trianon/#comment-12246 Wed, 20 Feb 2013 08:59:53 +0000 /?p=3420#comment-12246 Carolyn,

Wonderful, I hope you enjoyed your visit!

Nowadays, and even during Hitler’s Vienna times, Vienna is quite a shadow of its past, and the cities you mentioned in Germany are very beautiful and speak for themselves also.

But to support my point that Austria and Germany are actually one entity that has been separated by various reasons, I include a link to the funural of Otto von Habsburg. The church goers honor him by singing a slightly modified version of the Austrian Kaiser anthem. It has the same melody as the current German one, and the original Kaiser Franz anthem only speaks of German lands in one verse, not of Austrian lands.

http://youtu.be/M5V98E3e9eA

Watching the whole ceremony with the march through the city, it also becomes clear that nationalism and taking pride in German-Austrian history is much more accepted than in Germany.

The Southern Tyrolers, btw, in Italy are the most nationalistic group of all Germans, as they demand the Anschluss to Austria!

Hitler once said that uniting the German nation was the greatest achievement of his political career.

Playing German, Austrian, Prussian, etc anthems would also be my suggestion for your musical breaks on the show…

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By: Carolyn /2013/02/19/treaties-of-saint-germain-and-trianon/#comment-12233 Wed, 20 Feb 2013 07:08:07 +0000 /?p=3420#comment-12233

Carolyn, have you ever visited Austria?

Yes, I have, but only Vienna, Linz and Berchtesgaden. All I had time for. Three days in Vienna. I’m not sure I agree with you. Vienna was noisy. You are forgetting about Goethe, Schiller and Bach up there in Weimar and Erfurt, Würzburg and Leipzig. You have created a theory that pleases you and so for you it’s true.

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By: Carolyn /2013/02/19/treaties-of-saint-germain-and-trianon/#comment-12208 Wed, 20 Feb 2013 03:47:32 +0000 /?p=3420#comment-12208 margel – this is the last comment from you I will publish. You completely lack logic and context.

1. The reason the Victors did what they did is one thing. What others did later is another.

2. Poland and Czechoslovakia together were as large as or larger than Germany sfter 1919. They had also, along with France on the other side, taken some of Germany’s best industrial areas. Austria was smaller than Czechoslovakia. Germany, Austria and Hungary were surrounded by enemies.

3. All you’re interested in is pointing out how much you hate Austro-Hungary. Okay, we get it.

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By: Markus /2013/02/19/treaties-of-saint-germain-and-trianon/#comment-12205 Wed, 20 Feb 2013 03:38:48 +0000 /?p=3420#comment-12205 Margel, Poland got access to the Baltic to be supplied by Britain and was/is neighbored by Czecholsowakia, which is right in between Vienna and Berlin. A perfect satellite state to attack the German Realm, also for the Soviet Union, which had a border to Czecholsowakia.

Carolyn, have you ever visited Austria? It is like heaven. The alps are epic, Vienna is a golden city. Vienna was the capital of the Holy Roman Empire of the German Nation, and can not be compared to some local German duchy or kingdom. Not even Prussia could compete with that. Prussia is rather worldly, with the best knowledge of military. Middle and West Germany are best in technology. Southern Germany is the mind with its universities.

The Spirit controls the Flesh. Austria is the spirit, Germany the flesh.

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By: Carolyn /2013/02/19/treaties-of-saint-germain-and-trianon/#comment-12204 Wed, 20 Feb 2013 03:19:07 +0000 /?p=3420#comment-12204 Markus, I know. But you’re the one that said the Austrians were more spiritual.

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By: margel /2013/02/19/treaties-of-saint-germain-and-trianon/#comment-12202 Wed, 20 Feb 2013 02:56:10 +0000 /?p=3420#comment-12202 Carolyn,
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it. It did it to weaken Germany through weakening it’s “allies” and strengthening it’s adversaries (Poland and Czechoslovakia especially)
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I am sorry but I disagree. A country is at its peak when it is the same people, the same nation inside national borders. If by dismantling the A-H empire the Entente wanted to weaken Germany, that action did not succeed!
You yourself said that Hitler did not like A-H and, I am sure he never wanted to incorporate in Germany any non German lands. So dismantling the A-H did not weaken Germany. Taken German territories from Germany DID weaken it.
As for strengthening Poland and Czechoslovakia, let’s be serious! When such small countries did ever pose a threat to a country the size and with the industry of Germany?
Can you name ONE good thing A-H brought to the war effort for Germany?

Thanks,
Margel.

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By: Markus /2013/02/19/treaties-of-saint-germain-and-trianon/#comment-12198 Wed, 20 Feb 2013 02:31:11 +0000 /?p=3420#comment-12198 Read about Otto von Habsburg, 1912-2011, Austrian heir and head of the Habsburg Haus.

He was percecuted by the NS regime after the Anschluss for high treason. Otto fled to the US and held several conversations with Churchill and Roosevelt to reorganize Europe.

After WW2, he heavily worked on uniting Europe. He also made comments about Jews and Blacks running the US.

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