Comments on: Tan and Carolyn ‘Live’ – Identity, Anonymity, Christianity, Holocaustianity /2013/02/26/tan-and-carolyn-live-identity-anonymity-christianity-holocaustianity/ Whites Talking to Whites About White Interests Tue, 15 Apr 2014 21:47:02 +0000 hourly 1 https://wordpress.org/?v=5.0.22 By: Carl /2013/02/26/tan-and-carolyn-live-identity-anonymity-christianity-holocaustianity/#comment-13967 Mon, 04 Mar 2013 01:56:56 +0000 /?p=3483#comment-13967 A lot of the “rationalization” that Christians engage in relates to sorting through social and historical phenomena, that is, personal and group phenomena, to see how they can be interpreted coherently. For example, on Christogenea last evening, Mr. Finck had two guests who did a remarkably sound job of explaining the US Constitution as Christian and, of course, White. The winner of the overall metaphysical contest goes to whomever makes the most coherent picture of all sound data. Without Christianity, you end up having aliens as creators, underground creatures, messages given to seers, phony dates, and worse.

You could also embrace an inherently chaotic metaphysics, but then you might as well race-mix, because that is the ultimate chaos.

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By: Carolyn /2013/02/26/tan-and-carolyn-live-identity-anonymity-christianity-holocaustianity/#comment-13836 Sun, 03 Mar 2013 03:07:39 +0000 /?p=3483#comment-13836 flippityfloppity – okay,thanks. I was completely unaware of it.

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By: katana /2013/02/26/tan-and-carolyn-live-identity-anonymity-christianity-holocaustianity/#comment-13757 Sat, 02 Mar 2013 13:50:11 +0000 /?p=3483#comment-13757 >Carl
March 1, 2013 at 2:46 pm

Charging people with ‘infantile belief’ is unlikely to bring greater unity to our tribe in any case.
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If they are guilty of holding infantile beliefs then it needs to be pointed out for our cause to be advanced.

Christian beliefs in my opinion are infantile, to use your term.

Does that mean that people who believe in Christianity are infantile? Yes and no, because the beliefs and the intelligence of the believers are two separate things. Dumb and smart people can both believe in stupid things, especially if they learn them at a young age (the cradle). The smarter people can use their intellectual horsepower to rationalize their infantile beliefs with impressive displays of logic and so on.

For example, in the day when people believed that the sun revolved around the earth both the dummies and smarties thought this was commonsense. Both were wrong.

But, back to your point about unity. There’s unity based on utility and there is unity based on truth. For me Christianity may have some utility, but no truth.

Whites in any case, regardless of their religious beliefs, should join together to defeat our enemy.

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By: Carolyn /2013/02/26/tan-and-carolyn-live-identity-anonymity-christianity-holocaustianity/#comment-13662 Sat, 02 Mar 2013 01:10:34 +0000 /?p=3483#comment-13662 Katana – I don’t think you offered any evidence. To your question: Was Jesus a Jew? According to the narrative, Jesus was a Galilean whom the Phariasees and high priests from Judea didn’t think was a real Jew. Adolf Hitler said Jesus was not a Jew because he didn’t think or speak like a Jew. You can’t rely on every sentence in the Bible because it’s been tampered with.

Then again, if Jesus did not really exist as an individual person, the Person of the Christ is not at all Jewish, but is an Aryan conception. The Catholic Church did not teach the bible but it’s own doctrine. Religions are funny that way. We’re dealing with an ideal.

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By: flippityfloppity /2013/02/26/tan-and-carolyn-live-identity-anonymity-christianity-holocaustianity/#comment-13653 Fri, 01 Mar 2013 23:33:09 +0000 /?p=3483#comment-13653 “Back in 1965, “Creationism” was not a topic of discussion, at least as I recall. ”

In the 1950 encyclical Humani generis, Pope Pius XII confirmed that there is no intrinsic conflict between Christianity and the theory of evolution, provided that Christians believe that the individual soul is a direct creation by God and not the product of purely material forces.

Young Earth Creationism was revived in the 1960’s.

The Butler Act was fought over several times in the 1960’s

Creationism was a hot topic – particularly in the South where it was under siege.

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By: Carl /2013/02/26/tan-and-carolyn-live-identity-anonymity-christianity-holocaustianity/#comment-13631 Fri, 01 Mar 2013 19:46:14 +0000 /?p=3483#comment-13631 Charging people with ‘infantile belief’ is unlikely to bring greater unity to our tribe in any case.

A better use for the concept is what Carolyn has already observed: the Hoaxers are going after the children, with experiential ‘learning’ exercises intended to inculcate, from near infancy, a core belief in the Hoax. The latest is the IWitness project, which introduces technology into the mix. Now children can record and share their emotive responses to the Hoax with other exposed children, all under the careful guidance of Jews and other Hoaxers.

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By: katana /2013/02/26/tan-and-carolyn-live-identity-anonymity-christianity-holocaustianity/#comment-13608 Fri, 01 Mar 2013 16:13:51 +0000 /?p=3483#comment-13608 >I am not as annoyed as I am disappointed in your poor thinking about the issue. You are the fanatic who repeats your opinion that Christianity is a “Jewish scam” without offering any proof. You may be convinced by things you have read, so maybe you should tell us in condensed form what is the evidence for your belief. I don’t mean a lot of links to other people giving their opinions. I mean evidence in the briefest form possible.

Your use of the word ‘fanatic’ is wrong. I try to be realistic. Christianity is based on the (jewish) belief of a sky god that listens to our prayers, and so on. Simply rubbish.

>And readers, this will not be turned into a CI debate. Okay?

Inconvenient? CI is more garden path stuff.

>Only katana’s opinions about standard Christianity are up for discussion here.

Good. Let’s discuss ‘standard Christianity’ and how it helps or doesn’t help our White cause.

Question: Was Jesus a jew?

Answer: Any question about Jesus will take you down a jewish rat hole that leads to a maze of further rat holes that leads to utter confusion and muddled thinking.

The whole thing is nonsense.

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By: Carolyn /2013/02/26/tan-and-carolyn-live-identity-anonymity-christianity-holocaustianity/#comment-13596 Fri, 01 Mar 2013 14:33:51 +0000 /?p=3483#comment-13596

Darwinism adequately explains with evidence and logic how life has evolved to its present state. Any ‘Bible’ explanation involves a kind of hocus pocus process that is more at home in some ancient world mentality.

Many exposed to Christianity really want to believe in the explanations they were brought up on in Sunday school as children. Religious beliefs are formed in nearly all cases in the cradle, and are therefore extremely hard to shake off.

That which is bolded is your opinion.

my point was only that this belief in Christianity (with all its inanities) continues to exist in adults because it is indoctrinated into defenseless children.

What kind of a point is that? As I already said, everything taught to children is “indoctrinated into defenseless children.” Still, many children resist it and inwardly don’t believe it. Also working against your opinion is that the churches continue to empty out of White European people. But it doesn’t help us at all. Do these Christian drop-outs become fighters for the White race?

I appreciate that my criticism of Christianity gets you annoyed as you are sympathetic to it, and it’s a divisive issue among Whites. But we need to face various realities, and that to me means understanding that Christianity is a jewish scam in origin, that, pretzel like, can take novel forms.

I am not as annoyed as I am disappointed in your poor thinking about the issue. You are the fanatic who repeats your opinion that Christianity is a “Jewish scam” without offering any proof. You may be convinced by things you have read, so maybe you should tell us in condensed form what is the evidence for your belief. I don’t mean a lot of links to other people giving their opinions. I mean evidence in the briefest form possible.

And readers, this will not be turned into a CI debate. Okay? Only katana’s opinions about standard Christianity are up for discussion here.

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By: katana /2013/02/26/tan-and-carolyn-live-identity-anonymity-christianity-holocaustianity/#comment-13593 Fri, 01 Mar 2013 13:53:53 +0000 /?p=3483#comment-13593 >Carolyn, February 28, 2013 at 9:18 am
What you say is highly opinionated, katana.

I don’t think the ‘Theory of Evolution’ (Darwinism) is just an opinion. It’s established science, i.e., has been through the wringer of the scientific process ever since Darwin presented it.

> Exposure to anything at a young age works the same.

Sure. But my point was only that this belief in Christianity (with all its inanities) continues to exist in adults because it is indoctrinated into defenseless children.

> I think it’s a mistake to blame Christianity for everything that ails us.

I don’t blame Christianity for all our problems. I blame it for seriously contributing to our problems through making us vulnerable to the scheming of the predator jew.

I appreciate that my criticism of Christianity gets you annoyed as you are sympathetic to it, and it’s a divisive issue among Whites. But we need to face various realities, and that to me means understanding that Christianity is a jewish scam in origin, that, pretzel like, can take novel forms.

CI is a recent, good example.

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By: Carolyn /2013/02/26/tan-and-carolyn-live-identity-anonymity-christianity-holocaustianity/#comment-13454 Thu, 28 Feb 2013 14:18:57 +0000 /?p=3483#comment-13454 What you say is highly opinionated, katana. Exposure to anything at a young age works the same. How about exposure to communism or the stories of Greek heroes? Or Disney characters? I don’t think religious beliefs are formed in the cradle, what do infants care about such things? But our bonding with our parents makes us want to have the same beliefs they do. This occurs in all of nature; the newly born develop by mimicking their parent(s), and then others of their kind. This is all healthy and good. At some point humans start to reason things out for themselves. Some want to “shake off” some of what they received, others don’t.
But it’s in our natures to seek for meaningful explanations to why we are here, and if we reject a former belief it’s usually because we’ve found another to take its place.

I think it’s a mistake to blame Christianity for everything that ails us.

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