Comments on: Is there such a thing as White European Nationalism? /2013/06/11/is-there-such-a-thing-as-white-european-nationalism/ Whites Talking to Whites About White Interests Tue, 15 Apr 2014 21:47:02 +0000 hourly 1 https://wordpress.org/?v=5.0.22 By: Rollory /2013/06/11/is-there-such-a-thing-as-white-european-nationalism/#comment-29952 Mon, 01 Jul 2013 02:58:48 +0000 /?p=4793#comment-29952 Markus:
“Furthermore, the enemies of Europe portray Hispanics as a non-European people,”

Because that is what they ARE.

http://unamusementpark.com/2011/04/hatred-iii-the-hispanic-panic/
http://www.pnas.org/content/early/2010/05/05/0914618107

“Hispanic/Latino populations possess a complex genetic structure that reflects recent admixture among and potentially ancient substructure within Native American, European, and West African source populations. …

Comparing autosomal, X and Y chromosome, and mtDNA variation, we find evidence of a significant sex bias in admixture proportions consistent with disproportionate contribution of European male and Native American female ancestry to present-day populations. …”

Male Spaniard conquistadors took native women as wives, systematically, over a continent and a half. The result is the Hispanic race. Hispanics are not Spaniards and they are not Aryan. If you try to insist that they are, you are just playing Humpty Dumpty games and will confuse everyone. People know what Hispanic means: it means those brown-skinned people who speak Spanish.

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By: Lurker /2013/06/11/is-there-such-a-thing-as-white-european-nationalism/#comment-29949 Mon, 01 Jul 2013 02:47:57 +0000 /?p=4793#comment-29949 Dana – I put up the GDNA link as someone asked if they were active outside Greece. From what I can tell, and as you said, its more of a supporters group than anything else.

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By: Carolyn /2013/06/11/is-there-such-a-thing-as-white-european-nationalism/#comment-29931 Sun, 30 Jun 2013 16:46:10 +0000 /?p=4793#comment-29931

I will always be on your side …

Thanks for that, Dana. You have always behaved in that manner toward me.

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By: Carolyn /2013/06/11/is-there-such-a-thing-as-white-european-nationalism/#comment-29929 Sun, 30 Jun 2013 16:27:37 +0000 /?p=4793#comment-29929 Dana – This is the same as what you’ve already written. The only thing new is that you did answer to your ethnicity – thank you very much. You know, it doesn’t make any difference if your father was a blonde, blue-eyed Italian, as it is not about blonde hair and blue eyes. It is about blood and genetic markers, and these should be kept as pure as possible. 100% purity is not possible, of course, and hasn’t existed for a long time, but there is still that bond between people of same nationality, type and culture that our enemies want to break up more than anything else.

I’ll admit I am more of a right-brained thinker, and like to stream different topics together into a whole, rather than having a rigorous, reductionist approach. Its just my style I guess.

You call it right-brained, but I just call it sloppy and unfocused. Your distaste for the ‘rigorous, reductionist approach’ is very un-Germanic and is why I experience you as ‘all over the place.’ You say, “It’s just my style.” I say, It’s just your nature. Another factor that is probably present is that you are avoiding truths that don’t benefit you personally, or which might make you feel excluded. Although you shouldn’t feel that way as long as you are honest about who you are.

We can recognize that we have similar larger, long-term goals for White people, but we can’t really communicate satisfactorily with each other.

Further, in my study of breeding I have found that cross-breeding in a willy-nilly way is a game of chance – sometimes it works out, more of the time it doesn’t. But the greatest drawback is that there is no consistency of type; a lot of oddballs are created that are not one thing or another. It makes it more difficult to unite these people into a single mindset and this might account for the popularity of Individualism in the modern world, and especially in the USA. That, to me, is more the source of divisiveness (and weakness/disunity) than is nationalism that you try to make it out to be.

P.S.

The biggest and most obvious is the anti-German attitudes of the British.

The vast majority of British were not anti-German. London and the Jewish and ‘judaized-money Brits’ were anti-German nationalism or anti-German power/competitiveness. This is an example of why what you say is meaningless.

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By: Dana /2013/06/11/is-there-such-a-thing-as-white-european-nationalism/#comment-29915 Sun, 30 Jun 2013 09:01:37 +0000 /?p=4793#comment-29915 Carolyn, I just want you to know, if nothing else comes of this back and forth – I will always be on your side and continue to promote your network, which does excellent work in waking our people up. In addition to this, you have inspired me to focus my thought into a clearer and more defined structure. Thank you!

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By: Dana /2013/06/11/is-there-such-a-thing-as-white-european-nationalism/#comment-29892 Sat, 29 Jun 2013 18:06:11 +0000 /?p=4793#comment-29892 just some corrections to grammatical errors:
*the catastrophic war could’ve been avoided (second paragraph)

**I’m for all European nations withdrawing from this entity (the EU) (fifth paragraph)

***I already hear cries of racial mischling (seventh paragraph)

****nine out of ten white people i meet (last paragraph)

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By: Dana /2013/06/11/is-there-such-a-thing-as-white-european-nationalism/#comment-29891 Sat, 29 Jun 2013 17:55:21 +0000 /?p=4793#comment-29891 Well, first off I’d like to say thank you for allowing my second comment in there to clarify myself further. I heard your follow-up show in which you brought me to task. I’ll admit I am more of a right-brained thinker, and like to stream different topics together into a whole, rather than having a rigorous, reductionist approach. Its just my style I guess.

Now, I blame the Jewish influence as a major cause of the war, but if you think its the only cause, I have to differ with you. If there weren’t inter-ethnic rivalries and disputes that existed prior to the conflict in which the Jews were able to manipulate to their advantage, its possible that the catastrophic even could’ve been avoided.

There are more examples other than the ones I mentioned, but what is important here is a mindset – one of ultra-nationalism, or what is commonly called “petty.” The biggest and most obvious is the anti-German attitudes of the British. Do we really want Greeks fighting Macedonians, or Hungarians arguing with Romanians? I understand that some nations have honest grievances, and that Germany was in the right when they had issue with Poland prior to the war; I would just like to see the principle of racial unity triumph over ethnic division, and this of course doesn’t mean we have to abandon true, positive nationalism.

When you say marrying outside of the race “is just a further step” after marrying outside your particular group – of course, but I see nothing wrong or inherently “bad” about mixes occuring within the race. If all separate groups were to be lost this would be tragic, but I don’t see that as a threat at this point, especially when the entire race is threatened as a whole. Plus, in the distant past, our race was one and came from the same source/wellspring if you go far back enough…though I could be wrong. In addition to this, I don’t believe National Socialists held a view against inter-european marriages. If a Dane married a Spaniard, or an Irishman an Italian, etc., I don’t think they really planned on enforcing such restrictions, not that it would’ve been encouraged. I’ve seen so many beautiful mixes of different European groups, and I personally look at blood as a tribal thing, like celtic, greco-roman, germanic, slavic, etc., rather than nations which have boundaries that have changed over the centuries so often.

The EU is a zionist run organization that is completely at odds with “the new europe” or new order under National Socialism. I don’t know why you would even think I endorse that. I’m for ALL European nations should withdraw from this entity and get back their sovereignty, and then maybe in the future when we have broken the back of our oppressors we can begin to establish bonds of race.

I would never tell the Europeans what to do, I’m merely looking at the total situation and differentiating between the U.S. and Europe. And to recap, my general thesis which you seemed to jump on was a mere observation that in the U.S. we have a blended white race with too little ethno-racial consciousness (bad), although we can see ourselves as one race (good), and in Europe we have nationalists that have strong ethno-cultural identities and ties to their homeland (good), but sometimes it gets to be too tribal at can come at the expense of european racial unity.

I have never deceived anybody of my racial heritage and I am as follows: 62.5% Italian (with both northern, more Germanic-laced and Central); 12.5% Greek, and 1/4 Assyrian-Iranian. My father is 100% Italian, with blonde hair and blue eyes, and my mother is half italian-greek, or what i like to call ‘greco-roman,’ and half Assyrian with roots in Iran. Now, I already here calls of mischling coming from the crowd, but I would just like to say that my mother looks like a typical white mediterranean woman, and Assyrians basically look like a cross between a Greek and Persian (who were Aryans in ancient times). Culturally, Assyrians, Greeks and Armenians are very close peoples, same food, religion (eastern orthodox/catholic christian), same enemies (turks), same music, etc. They are ancient people ethnically distinct from Arabs and actually survived by being a Christian minority in the Middle East, and the first people to invade Israel during biblical times, which I’m very proud of. Sorry for the long rant here.

I realize in this country there are pockets of communities that are still ethnically pure, but I have to be honest, nine out of ten white people I might, regardless of where in the country, are mixed white ethnicities (and you can define white however you wish). I agree with you that Jews have been fundamental in destroying white ethnic and racial consciousness, as a result of the war, and through the various cultural marxist movements, through media/hollywood, education, etc. Indeed, it has been asserted that when white nationalism elevates race too much to the point that all whites are equal regardless of quality by virtue of skin tone, that is a racial marxism in itself – and i am against that. I think we should all be elitists and put quality over quantity. As far as doing the work of the Jews, come on Carolyn, if you don’t know me by now and can’t see that I’m on your side, what more can I say.

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By: Carolyn /2013/06/11/is-there-such-a-thing-as-white-european-nationalism/#comment-29300 Sun, 16 Jun 2013 17:14:58 +0000 /?p=4793#comment-29300 Dana – Your writing is confused, that is what I said or meant. The first time I heard you on your radio program, I said you were “all over the place.” I have since not changed my mind – you are still all over the place. However this second comment is better that the preceding one. When you take more time to compose your writing, it shows — rather than going with stream-of-consciousness and expecting your readers to understand what you mean.

You can attack Sunic all you want – but I see the horrible results of inter-european ethnic rivalry and hatred, and this largely contributed to two world wars.

Wow. Are you really saying that? I thought it was the jews who set up the two world wars by interjecting jewish bolsheviks into ethnic disputes. Sunic is saying what he does because he wants to be seen as a European, not a Croatian. He takes no pride in Croatia. Plus I don’t “attack” Sunic; I only observe what I see and filter it through my own understanding.

Whether its English-Irish; Croat-Bosnia-Serb, Poland-German; etc.

These are the groupings Sunic always uses. And the only ones he uses. Is he the model for your thinking?

I have honestly heard some chauvinistic whites of certain ethnic groups say things like “if my daughter doesn’t marry one of us she might as well go with a black,” instead of her going another european. thats what i’m talking about.

This is irrelevant hearsay and not representative. But as a matter of fact, it IS better for people to marry within their own ethnic group; there would be more children and less divorce. The increasing acceptance of “marrying out” has led to marrying further and further “out.” Marrying outside of your race is just a further step beyond marrying outside your ethnic group.

The best solution I can come up with is Europeans need to maintain and preserve each nation/ethnic identity, but they should all put the race over the tribe.

Who are you to tell Europeans what to do? There are instances, or will be, when they put their nation’s interest over Europeanism if the “European consensus” or majority is ganging up for reasons of their national interest, which does happen. You’re saying the same thing as the EU, which proceeds to destroy all national sovereignty. We don’t live in the perfect world that you theorize in. I think there needs to be more clarity when we say we’re nationalists–what does that mean? Is it just a pose?

Would you mind telling your mixed ethnicity/national roots? I’m under the impression you are only part Italian. Please set me straight.

The U.S. is obviously different because we don’t really have separate white groups, aside from some communities in the cities.

Are you sure about that? I grew up within a community of German-Americans who had all emigrated from the same location, to a small-to-medium sized town. They already knew each other when they got here. They formed a Family Society club, built a clubhouse, and maintained the rule that only offspring of the original founders could ever be members. They worked it out that “outsider” spouses could be members as long as they were married to that partner, but only the children who could trace their bloodline to an original founding member could become members. This club is still going, fourth and even fifth generation! It’s nothing like Amish (separating themselves from the rest of society) and never was. They just took advantage of American freedom to try to keep their heritage and togetherness going.

The loss of ethnic consciousness in the U.S. is in largest part the result of the two jew-inspired-and-jew-driven world wars. The jew-media plays a big role. So, in a way, you sound like you’re asserting the jew-doctrine of “we’re all the same.” Be careful, lest you be doing the work of the jews.

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By: Dana /2013/06/11/is-there-such-a-thing-as-white-european-nationalism/#comment-29195 Sat, 15 Jun 2013 01:03:33 +0000 /?p=4793#comment-29195 Carolyn, I am not confused at all, about anything – we have some disagreements but that doesn’t mean I’m confused. You can control your comment section on your site anyway you’d like, its your page. I was just bringing to attention the idea that in the U.S. all the white ethnic groups merged into one, which is where we get the idea of being “white.” this has positives and negatives attached to it. it seems to be a good thing that we can look at ourselves as one race, but at the same time without the strong cultural identification that comes with having a unique ethnic heritage, we tend to lose consciousness of race altogether – i’m speaking of your average white person, not race nationalists. You can attack Sunic all you want – but I see the horrible results of inter-european ethnic rivalry and hatred, and this largely contributed to two world wars. Doesn’t seem to be something that should be glossed over or ignored. Whether its English-Irish; Croat-Bosnia-Serb, Poland-German; etc. I have honestly heard some chauvinistic whites of certain ethnic groups say things like “if my daughter doesn’t marry one of us she might as well go with a black,” instead of her going another european. thats what i’m talking about. The best solution I can come up with is Europeans need to maintain and preserve each nation/ethnic identity, but they should all put the race over the tribe. The U.S. is obviously different because we don’t really have separate white groups, aside from some communities in the cities.

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By: Alexander from Flanders /2013/06/11/is-there-such-a-thing-as-white-european-nationalism/#comment-29193 Sat, 15 Jun 2013 00:42:39 +0000 /?p=4793#comment-29193 On may the 25th the 4th Euro-Rus conference was held in my country (Flemish part of Belgium). The titel of the meeting was “Europe against Wall Street”, and it had speakers (and political parties) from Spain, France, Zweden, Holland, Flanders, Serbia, Russia, Italy and Wallonia (French part of Belgium).

The two links provide pictures, articles and other stuff. The second link is in English so check it out guys.

http://rechtsactueel.com/2013/06/12/europa-tegen-wall-street/

http://www.eurorus.org/index.php

People are trying to form an alliance of different White countries. The last thing we need is White people versus White people. What we need is unity. This does not mean that we “must” have one big organisation and forget our own local groups. We can simply do both.

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