Comments on: World War Two Revisionism with Piotr Zychowicz /2013/11/16/world-war-two-revisionism-with-piotr-zychowicz/ Whites Talking to Whites About White Interests Tue, 15 Apr 2014 21:47:02 +0000 hourly 1 https://wordpress.org/?v=5.0.22 By: Markus /2013/11/16/world-war-two-revisionism-with-piotr-zychowicz/#comment-47669 Mon, 18 Nov 2013 04:56:19 +0000 /?p=5993#comment-47669 I don’t believe the atrocity propaganda either. Germany was very strict with the Hague Convention law. If there were partisans shooting at the Wehrmacht, then the Wehrmacht reacted. But they didn’t “goose stepped through the villages and shot everyone for no reason” as the script goes.

I had to laugh too when Piotre brought up the segregation issue. I have never heard of that before, so I’m not certain if it’s true. Even if, segregation usually prevents conflict and doesn’t incite it.

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By: Carolyn /2013/11/16/world-war-two-revisionism-with-piotr-zychowicz/#comment-47615 Mon, 18 Nov 2013 00:18:49 +0000 /?p=5993#comment-47615 Marcus – I think I said I wanted to know what happened after 1939. During the time all these Poles were supposedly being murdered by the German occupiers. Which I don’t believe, and that is why I want to know. All we have are lies.

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By: Markus /2013/11/16/world-war-two-revisionism-with-piotr-zychowicz/#comment-47591 Sun, 17 Nov 2013 23:07:56 +0000 /?p=5993#comment-47591 Carolyn,
You asked what happened after 1945 in Poland.

Marcel Reich-Ranicki, a Prussian born Jew who became some sort of Polish diplomat in London after in the 1940’s, was responsible for atrocities against Germans and also helped British exile-Poles sent back to Poland to hand them over to the Soviets.

Reich-Ranicki later became VERY prominent in the BRD and celebrated as “literature-pope”. He recently died with spectacular media attention.

Here is what he replied in the 1990’s to accusations to him being a war criminal.

http://www.mechtersheimer.de/?p=14

„Man kann nicht erwarten, daß ich in der Autobiographie die volle Wahrheit preisgebe. Lessing sagt, die Wahrheit liege in Gottes Hand.“

“You can’t expect that I reveal the whole truth in my autobiography. Lessing says the truth is in God’s hand”. (Lessing was Ranicki’s cover name in London)

„Was geht es denn die Deutschen an, was ich in polnischen Diensten getan habe?“

“It is not of any German’s business what I did in the Polish secret police”.

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By: JoshuaF /2013/11/16/world-war-two-revisionism-with-piotr-zychowicz/#comment-47564 Sun, 17 Nov 2013 21:04:46 +0000 /?p=5993#comment-47564 Interesting to hear a Polish view. I would have liked to hear something or more about the Danzig massacres such as the Bromberg massacre. The Germans must have found and documented atrocious barbarity by (whom? Poles or Jews?) Were the massacres not the most important factor in Germany’s urgent attack, ie to stop them? Also, were there reprisals?

As for Churchill, he hangs himself by his own words and reveals his own criminality with the following:- re the Katyn Forest grave sites.
From Churchill’s Vol. 5 “The Second World War” at Appendix C.
Prime Minister Memo 30 Jan 1944 to Foreign Secretary,
“I think Sir Owen O’Malley should be asked very secretly to express his opinion on the Katyn Wood inquiry. How does the argument about the length of time the birch trees had grown over the graves fit in with this new tale ? Did anybody look at the birch trees ?”
He must have been very confident that information about the real perpetrators would ever leak out!

No mention by the way, of any Holocau$t in those 6 volumes, last one published 1952!

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By: Tanstaafl /2013/11/16/world-war-two-revisionism-with-piotr-zychowicz/#comment-47519 Sun, 17 Nov 2013 18:40:48 +0000 /?p=5993#comment-47519 A TANGLED WEB – Polish-Jewish Relations in Wartime Northeastern Poland and the Aftermath is from a pro-Polish/anti-jew perspective.

p31:

The notion that the Home Army could integrate the Jews who escaped to the forest or take them their wings, as some Jewish historians suggest, must be dismissed as highly unrealistic in the context of the Polish-Soviet struggle for supremacy that was unfolding in this region. The Home Army was a military organization, not a social relief agency, and it only accepted trusted armed fighters. As Prekerowa points out, the natural allies of the Jewish fugitives were the Soviet partisans in Eastern Poland and the Communist underground in central Poland, and not the Home Army which supported the Polish government exiled in London and fought for the integrity of Poland’s statehood and prewar territory.

p32:

Because of the warm reception given by a large part of the Jewish population to the invading Soviet Army, and the many instances of collaboration with the new regime to the detriment of Poles in the years 1939–1941, the Home Army in this area was extremely leery of accepting local Jews into its ranks unless their credentials were impeccable. They simply did not trust the local Jews because they believed that they were more inclined to support Soviet rather than Polish interests.1 Unfortunately, this assessment proved to be accurate in very many cases.

p33:

The Jews hiding in the forests, whether as partisans or forest dwellers, were preoccupied not with fighting the Germans but almost exclusively with their own survival. They dispatched an endless flow of armed groups into the villages to seize food and other belongings from the villagers. In these undertakings, they enjoyed the protection of those Jews who had been accepted into Soviet partisan units and were engaged in similar raids. These so-called “economic” operations or missions assumed massive proportions,1 resulting in many skirmishes with the impoverished villagers who increasingly resented and opposed the systematic stripping of most of their possessions.

A Jewish woman who joined the Soviet partisans, after escaping from the Głębokie ghetto with the aid of a Polish farmer, reported that the partisans’ wrath was directed primarily against the local population because of their alleged collaboration with the Germans.

We killed mercilessly. We killed. We used to go into villages where we knew that the people collaborated with the Germans. We used to kill them indiscriminately. We killed off an awful lot of people we knew that were against the Jews. My brother was the leader, he was very good at it … We used to go into villages. We used to find out where they lived, and we pulled them out one by one, and we killed them.

p36:

Some Jewish partisans who engaged in sabotage against the Germans coldly calculated the consequences of their actions for themselves and for their Christian neighbours—the proverbial “other,” and the latter inevitably lost out.

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By: Carolyn /2013/11/16/world-war-two-revisionism-with-piotr-zychowicz/#comment-47473 Sun, 17 Nov 2013 15:51:55 +0000 /?p=5993#comment-47473

Goldstein: I don’t want to be cruel, but what cultural-scientific contributions has Poland given to the world?

Poland claims Nicholas Copernicus, but he was a German by birth. His parents were living in Polish territory, but they spoke German and raised him in same manner. Therefore, this brilliant man did not have Polish blood. I have argued this with Poles in the past, and they are very stubborn on it.

What bothers me most about Poles is that they really do want to rewrite history, and they have! They will cooperate with anyone who cooperates with them in this history-creation-and-rewriting. Honest history is, imo, our most important concern after the destruction of White majorities in our White homelands. What makes it difficult (touchy) is that Peter Zychowicz is on our side in so many areas and we don’t want to disturb that.

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By: Markus /2013/11/16/world-war-two-revisionism-with-piotr-zychowicz/#comment-47469 Sun, 17 Nov 2013 15:37:13 +0000 /?p=5993#comment-47469 Carolyn,

I haven’t even checked the claim Piotre made on the German-Northern Russian, Polish-Ukraine, Japanese-Siberia solution and went by heart on my reaction to it as a reasonable solution.

As you know, I have been looking for evidence for Generalplan Ost lately that Piotre also cites. I couldn’t find any evidence that such a plan even existed. (John de Nugent, who I contacted, told me the same). And what evidence exists that Hitler wanted to conquer India? As far as I know, Hitler stated that Germany wasn’t capable of what the British are.

Thinking about Generalplan Ost, it’s probably another “Katyn false flag”, where the Bolsheviks actually had plans to send Eastern Europeans to Siberia. Piotre mentioned that the Comzis indeed deported large numbers of Poles to Siberia.

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By: Carolyn /2013/11/16/world-war-two-revisionism-with-piotr-zychowicz/#comment-47468 Sun, 17 Nov 2013 15:34:32 +0000 /?p=5993#comment-47468 Repe – Thanks for your links.

You linked to the Jungefreiheit article in which the writer recommends Alfred Schickel. Hasso Castrup has translated into English a long paper by Dr. Alfred Schickel at his blog, Shoabloger. It deals with events leading up to the invasion; what we need is more during and after the war in Poland.

Hasso’s translation of the interview between Karnowski and Zychowicz is what led me to do this program.

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By: Carolyn /2013/11/16/world-war-two-revisionism-with-piotr-zychowicz/#comment-47454 Sun, 17 Nov 2013 14:41:10 +0000 /?p=5993#comment-47454 From weichseler:

I have yet to see a modern, objective account of what really transpired during that period.

Neither the German nor the American, British, Russian historians are going to tell the truth about it. The storyline has been set in stone, for political reasons. However, what Zychowicz is doing is at least making a start, but with Polish interests in mind. For our part, we need hard-working young historians who will dig out dependable documents showing what really happened in Poland (and didn’t happen). Where are they?

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By: Carolyn /2013/11/16/world-war-two-revisionism-with-piotr-zychowicz/#comment-47445 Sun, 17 Nov 2013 14:19:25 +0000 /?p=5993#comment-47445 Repe, you wrote:

Funny thing: The man says that You cannot trust the archives of the Germans.

No, he did not. I am the one who said that. Piotr asked me “You don’t trust the German archives either?” after I said I wouldn’t trust the Polish national historical archives. I answered, No.

You are right that he didn’t come up with any evidence for these crimes. He said Poles are buried in mass graves all over Poland, murdered by the “Nazis”. This is not true; I don’t know of any. Mass graves have been found, like around Marienberg/Marbork, filled with Germans! And it is not disputed that they are Germans – men, women and children. An article I wrote is here: http://carolynyeager.net/search-wwii-mass-graves. This article has 13,546 reads on my website. As important as it is, it should have more.

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