Comments on: Movement Madness

By: Carolyn

Carolyn — Thu, 19 Dec 2013 01:54:27 +0000

I’ll post it so your statement that you don’t doubt the authenticity of the Platterhof speech can be seen. Don’t know where I saw what I recall seeing, but glad that is cleared up. Thanks again for participating and helping us to understand where you are coming from. Good luck in your mainstream academic career – you seem quite serious about it.

By: VKC

VKC — Thu, 19 Dec 2013 00:01:49 +0000

No, that’s wrong. I never doubted its authenticity here or anywhere else. That was another contributor. The full IfZ citation can be found in BN II.

I wish you well in your work, Carolyn. I mean that. I do not begrudge you or the white movement. I just don’t care to be part of it.

Take care.

(No need to post. Just FYI.)

By: Carolyn

Carolyn — Wed, 18 Dec 2013 06:18:16 +0000

VKC – I’m now understanding that your affection was never for Adolf Hitler, but always for Blacks and Mexicans. You thought from the start that Hitler, and Germans in general, treated other races better than did the Americans and English. And it’s true. So you’ve been trying to show that Hitler was a nice man, based solely on your empathy for Blacks and Mestizos, and then the Asians too. You want a multicultural world. That’s why you hate White Nationalists.

For that reason, you clearly don’t belong on these pages. I thank you for the opportunity you’ve offered to learn about you and for your (sometimes)frank answers. But an ongoing exchange with you will not be productive from here on. The issue of our desire for a White society is not up for argument. Of course, Fredrick Töben is free to answer you.

P.S. I have not suggested you invented Hitler’s Platterhof speech, but somewhere in these comments you doubted it was authentic (which surprised me).

By: Carolyn

Carolyn — Wed, 18 Dec 2013 05:49:13 +0000

Dr Toeben,

May I ask why you (or Mr Hartung) cut and pasted this interview I gave from my old blog, without my knowledge or consent:
http://www.adelaideinstitute.org/newsletters/Newsletter%20690.pdf

From your interview:

“Fortunately Jewish author Bryan Mark Rigg conducted outstanding research in this area and revealed a number of Jewish participants not only in the foundational NS movement (e.g. Emil Maurice) … ”

I am so sick of seeing the example used of this one man who was an early ally and associate of Hitler. Maurice was 1/8 Jewish, having one jewish Great Grandfather. . That means he was 7/8 German (maybe some French?). This was only discovered when he sought to marry and as an SS member had to undergo a racial investigation. I myself would hardly describe him as “a Jew.” He obviously did not identify as a jew. It’s for reasons like this that I disagree with your research and conclusions.

But I thought you said, “Now we part ways.” For the 3rd time 🙂

By: VKC

VKC — Wed, 18 Dec 2013 02:01:44 +0000

Dr Toeben,

May I ask why you (or Mr Hartung) cut and pasted this interview I gave from my old blog, without my knowledge or consent:
http://www.adelaideinstitute.org/newsletters/Newsletter%20690.pdf

Carolyn utterly disagrees with my research and conclusions, especially Black Nazis. Why do you, Dr Toeben, endorse it? I don’t understand this apparent dichotomy.

By: Carolyn

Carolyn — Mon, 16 Dec 2013 16:38:50 +0000

Thank you Fredrick, for your valuable ruminations. Maybe you would be on my next panel program on the IHR issue? I think of you as in “European time” but that’s not actually so; in Australia you’re somewhere around 12 hours difference. I’ll be in touch.

By: Donn

Donn — Mon, 16 Dec 2013 12:37:39 +0000

Burt:

Very well reasoned and thoughtful position. There is indeed a learning curve for all of us and we are all exploring.

I am far more at odds with someone who contributes to or belongs to the anti-white genocidal SPLC than someone who may have married a part Cherokee.

By: Fredrick Toben

Fredrick Toben — Mon, 16 Dec 2013 06:37:50 +0000

Interesting, interesting – I see the Talmudic-Marxist-Feminist death dialectic operating here: opposites come together – male & female; female castrates male and and the new asexual androgynous individual emerges.
The life-giving Hegelian dialectic has the opposites creating a new synthesis in the form of new life, the child, which conserves those differences, half of each, within itself, and so on.
Throughout history males have looked for transcendence by castrating themselves and thereby getting rid of bothersome procreation impulses, which is the stuff of life and the actual mystery.
Richard Wagner worked on such themes in his operas, of course among other things. He does not reject the male-female divide as did Nietzsche whose friendship broke down with Wagner after Wagner was informed by of Nietzsche’s homosexuality, which was also his intellectual limitation.
When I hear individuals claim to be asexual, then I worry. Unless there is a physiological reason for it, whether you like it or not, the life-giving impulse, sex, will want to be expressed – so, please, don’t try to fool others by claiming this impulse, this urge is not there within you; or claim that it has been sublimated through drink, drugs, etc. – but that is still accepting that the life-force is still there, whichr emains with us until we die. I call this life force the Godly Force.
Did you notice that when the western world de-criminalised homosexuality, then the Roman Catholic Church saw an emptying of its nunneries and monasteries – and the Rainbow Movement became spiritual!

Carolyn, you are still clarifying issues – fundamental issues – and that is good to see. I knew nothing of Rodney Martin when I appeared on his program – I have learned something now. I try to approach individuals in a detached way so that my prejudices do not hinder an exchange of ideas. When, however, I know something, like Mark Weber being involved in stealing the IHR from Willis Carto and bankrupting Carto in the process, then that is a mortal sin.

By the way, I am going to persuade Peter Hartung to run this post in a newsletter. it is good for the record because it also brings in VKC and her views of life.

Thank you for giving me this opportunity of putting in my bit.
Fredrick

By: Carolyn

Carolyn — Mon, 16 Dec 2013 05:38:45 +0000

Very true. That’s a good way to put it.

By: Carolyn

Carolyn — Mon, 16 Dec 2013 05:37:16 +0000

http://www.blogtalkradio.com/american-nationalist-network/2013/12/14/world-view-conversations-special-broadcast