Comments on: Is the IHR a dead horse or can it be revived under new leadership? /2013/12/17/mark-weber-at-the-ihr-illegitimate-usurper-or-rightful-heir/ Whites Talking to Whites About White Interests Tue, 15 Apr 2014 21:47:02 +0000 hourly 1 https://wordpress.org/?v=5.0.22 By: Dana /2013/12/17/mark-weber-at-the-ihr-illegitimate-usurper-or-rightful-heir/#comment-59078 Sat, 28 Dec 2013 04:51:01 +0000 /?p=6351#comment-59078 Hey Konrad,

I don’t for a minute think of the Germans in the way the Jewish screenwriters in Hollywood present them – the way I look at it is they were actually the exact opposite in the way they are portrayed. I can understand why any Aryan would object to the concept of brutality, barbarism, etc. It goes against our very soul, the question is – is this a strength or a weakness for us? in the end, NS unwillingness to meet American and Bolshevik with equal brutality led to the war being lost, cities destroyed, and women raped by the millions. Those babies you care about so much will grow up to be your future commisars…and these hypothetical questions really are meaningless, because when the day comes that we have the power, there are other ways that are more agreeable than the nightmarish fantasies concocted by Jewish imaginations. Until we get to that point though, and in order to achieve that power we have to be Machiavellian and ruthless.

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By: Carolyn /2013/12/17/mark-weber-at-the-ihr-illegitimate-usurper-or-rightful-heir/#comment-59062 Sat, 28 Dec 2013 03:04:13 +0000 /?p=6351#comment-59062

Hope that helps.

Yes it does, very much.

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By: Greg Gerdes /2013/12/17/mark-weber-at-the-ihr-illegitimate-usurper-or-rightful-heir/#comment-59059 Sat, 28 Dec 2013 02:53:17 +0000 /?p=6351#comment-59059 Dana:

“…As I said in this podcast, once I came to the conclusion that the Holocaust is largely post-war Jewish propaganda, like everything else they do, I lost interest. Its just another lie amongst many lies

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I mean the way things are described here you would think Weber is paid salesman for the ADL or something,”

Well then Dana, if, as you say: “the Holocaust is largely post-war Jewish propaganda” and “just another lie amongst many lies”

would you please explain to me why Mark Weber says that there really was a Belzec holocaust, there was a Sobibor holocaust and there was a Treblinka holocaust?

Can you explain to me Dana why he says there were homicidal gas chambers in those three camps and why he says he agrees with David Irving on the issue – who claims that about 2.4 million jews were murdered in those three camps by means of alleged homicidal gas chambers and “machine gunning them into pits”? ( http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qocBt6lJApo )

Can you explain to me Dana, why Weber cravenly refuses to answer questions about his claims and espouses what you say is propaganda and lies?

Can you explain to me Dana, why, if the holocaust is a lie, you have a liar on your show and you don’t call the liar on his lies?

You need to pull your head out Dana.

BTW Dana, have you asked Weber to answer the 7 questions I posted above?

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By: Greg Gerdes /2013/12/17/mark-weber-at-the-ihr-illegitimate-usurper-or-rightful-heir/#comment-59044 Sat, 28 Dec 2013 01:08:57 +0000 /?p=6351#comment-59044 Carolyn,

According to Matthew Taylor of – The Guardian, the following words came directly out of David Irving’s mouth on or about the evening of Sept. 26, 2007:

“In my opinion now the real killing operations took place at the Reinhardt camps west of the Bug river. In the three camps here [Sobibor, Belzec, and Treblinka] Heinrich Himmler’s men (mostly Ukrainian mercenaries) killed possibly as many as 2.4 million in the two years up to October 1943.

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I do accept that the Nazis quite definitely, that Heinrich Himmler, organised and directed a programme, a clandestine programme, for the liquidation of European Jews … and that in 1942-43 alone over 2.5 million Jews were killed in those three camps.”

http://www.theguardian.com/uk/2007/sep/29/secondworldwar.highereducation

Hope that helps.

BTW, I don’t know if Matthew Taylor has a recording of this meeting, but I would assume that he does. I don’t know if he is still with The Guardian (or even if he is still alive), but here is some contact information:

To contact any member of staff

Individual staff, whether editorial or commercial, can be contacted using this email format:

Firstname.lastname@theguardian.com

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By: John Beattie /2013/12/17/mark-weber-at-the-ihr-illegitimate-usurper-or-rightful-heir/#comment-59038 Sat, 28 Dec 2013 00:21:40 +0000 /?p=6351#comment-59038 “Schindler’s List was on the other night. Did you guys see it ? ” This was the trap set by two “chaperons” from social agency, to accompany me on my weekend short visits with daughter. Mother had just passed away, and the state not want me to have my 13 year old live with me, as I smeared all life as a vicious NEO. One of the two agents, a massive goon, to assure I did not attempt to kidnap her in broad daylight, at an eatery, which I paid for ! The opening question trap, was casually, but pointedly, asked during hamburgs. Before I could say a careful word, my 13 year old blurts out : ” I saw it.It was boring “. She could not have seen it earlier in life while being home schooled by me and my wife, as we did not have hydro ! Get the significance of her immediate answer: ” ….it was boring “. The agents sat in stunned silence. Overkill has killed their goose, and the egg is no longer golden. The youth of today could care less. I rest my opinion. Thank you for freedom of speech.

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By: Carolyn /2013/12/17/mark-weber-at-the-ihr-illegitimate-usurper-or-rightful-heir/#comment-59035 Sat, 28 Dec 2013 00:12:50 +0000 /?p=6351#comment-59035 Greg, it would be better to quote the exact phrase or statement, then name the source with the link added … rather than expect people to read through a long article hunting for it. Same with the video, exactly what does it say, when? The thing is, these are not words that came directly out of Irving’s mouth, as in, *It is my conclusion that 2.4 mil. Jews were murdered at B, T and S.* So he did not exactly claim it … yet, but other people are asking him to clarify himself … which he won’t do.

It’s a lot like Weber when, after writing his “Holocaust revisionism is a hindrance” essay, he refused to state clearly whether or not he would continue with it at the IHR. He talked around it, and is still doing so.

As to the show at Renegade, I already talked about this on another comments page, and on a radio program. So I didn’t see the purpose in repeating it. Seemed like overkill. Your pointing out Weber’s “some others” is really interesting though. I take that as an indication that he is NOT always responsible in his attribution of sources of information, but here he’s trying to make it seem like it’s a responsible position to take. I guess what you mean is that “some others” must mean jews or establishment believers.

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By: Greg Gerdes /2013/12/17/mark-weber-at-the-ihr-illegitimate-usurper-or-rightful-heir/#comment-58988 Fri, 27 Dec 2013 18:27:57 +0000 /?p=6351#comment-58988 Carolyn, there are numerous sources for this. Here are but a few:

Jürgen Graf

http://inconvenienthistory.com/archive/2009/volume_1/number_2/david_irving_and_the_aktion_reinhardt_camps.php

His good buddy Alan Heath, video #1(At 2:02)

http://search.yahoo.com/search;_ylt=A0SO80tIwb1S4kQA.U6l87UF;_ylc=X1MDMjE0MjQ3ODk0OARfcgMyBGZyA3NmcC15ZmYyNARuX2dwcwMxMARvcmlnaW4Dc3ljBHF1ZXJ5A2FsYW4gaGVhdGggaW50ZXJ2aWV3IHlvdXR1YmUEc2FvAzE-?p=alan+heath+interview+youtube&fr=sfp-yff24&fr2=ond_moz_off&iscqry=

And there are numerous references to it on Codoh:

Paul Grubach’ letter:

http://forum.codoh.com/viewtopic.php?t=4563

and more:

http://forum.codoh.com/viewtopic.php?t=4558

http://forum.codoh.com/viewtopic.php?t=4548

BTW Carolyn, I posted something that Weber said in an interview earlier:

http://www.renegadebroadcasting.com/imperium-europa-w-dana-antiochus-12-4-13/#comment-61354

At 1:00:28 – we hear:

“Mark Weber: …certainly the number of jews who died or lost their lives or were killed, total, is certainly more than maybe 2 million, but it’s less than 6 million.

Caller Jim: Oh really? Uh, but there were no homicidal gas chambers, am I correct on that?

Mark Weber: stammering … bla bla bla … (1:00:55) But I do believe, uh, the evidence shows, that there were gassings of jews at Treblinka, Sobibor and Belzec … (1:01:14) but, my views on that are the same as, uh, David Irving and and some others…”

Was there something wrong with my posting that here? I don’t see it up anymore.

Thanks.

BTW, I wonder who Weber was referring to when he said – “some others?”

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By: Carolyn /2013/12/17/mark-weber-at-the-ihr-illegitimate-usurper-or-rightful-heir/#comment-58965 Fri, 27 Dec 2013 16:55:24 +0000 /?p=6351#comment-58965 Where does Irving claim that? A clear source, please. AFAIK he is only making suggestions and possibilities so far. His book has never come out.

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By: Greg Gerdes /2013/12/17/mark-weber-at-the-ihr-illegitimate-usurper-or-rightful-heir/#comment-58833 Fri, 27 Dec 2013 05:28:42 +0000 /?p=6351#comment-58833 BTW – I forgot to add that David Irving claims that about 2.4 million jews were murdered at Belzec, Sobibor and Treblinka.

That is the kind of “historian” Mark Weber really is. How pathetic.

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By: Carolyn /2013/12/17/mark-weber-at-the-ihr-illegitimate-usurper-or-rightful-heir/#comment-58810 Fri, 27 Dec 2013 03:31:36 +0000 /?p=6351#comment-58810 Greg,
I’ve been thinking about the collapse of the IHR and you are right – the archived articles are the only things of value there. That entire archive should be copied to a server for safekeeping. As I understand it, CODOH has archived every JHR issue on its site. I think most of what is in the IHR archive was in the magazine, but probably not all of it. Anyway, there is nothing else of value there.

I noticed that there is a Merry Christmas message on the front page that reads:

To everyone whose support helped make 2013 a productive and successful year — a heartfelt Thank You.
Mark Weber
And the IHR Team

Productive? What “team?” He can’t include his board members on the team – a board is only supposed to be an oversight mechanism. No, I don’t think they’re being paid, it would have to appear on the IRS filing. And if he has any paid help he would have to include that on his 501 (?) form, and the only person listed as being paid is Mark. But absolutely, if the IHR disappeared, it would not be missed since it doesn’t do anything. Something new could rise up to take its place, in time.

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