Most real Christians “believe in” the Protocols, while most anti-Christians criticize and attack them in the same way the communist Jews do. This is an impasse we consistently have.
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I think it is reasonable to “believe in” the Protocols regardless of religious belief or lack of. That belief being that the Protocols are a dramatized fictional description of jewish strategy and long terms plans to dominate non-jews.

Christians believe what they believe on the basis of “faith”. Non-believers believe what they believe on the basis of “what they can figure out for themselves”. If “anti-Christians” views’ coincide with communist jew view’s then that’s just a matter of where the facts point to.

The “impasse” is simply a result of some people not willing to face the evidence that the Protocols were not written by the Elders of Zion but by a hostile writer or writers, out to expose them.

he Protocols are dubious, and I think it’s unfortunate that a lot of people tend to recommend The Protocols to people unfamiliar with Jewish power. Material such as Kevin Macdonald’s Culture of Critique series is what people should be introduced to.

Exactly right. Even before the Protocols there were books about the Jews that didn’t have the serious drawback of pretending to be a record of a meeting, and being exposed as a fraud in that pretense so that anybody that continues to use them looks reckless. Many more books about the Jews have been written since the Protocols. If the Protocols are not a genuine record of a conspiratorial meeting — which they clearly are not — then there is no reason to use them, and a very good reason for not using them.

“Regarding Matthew Raphael Johnson, I only mentioned him because he is an expert on Russian history.”

Hadding,

Long overdue is my grateful reply to your responses to the questions I earlier put to you.

I did not know at all about Monsieur Joly before you mentioned him and his work here, and I really appreciate your clarification about what the reference was to Mathew Raphael Johnson and why.

Please continue, as you have, sharing your knowledge, if you will and as you can. You. Smart. Man. Me. Like. Much.

🙂

I look forward to hearing you read tomorrow night again on “The International Jew.”

So we don’t know where it came from … so it was originally presented as an ancient “plan” of the “elders of Zion.” So what? Is it true? Our scholars should be researching it from that angle, from that perspective … rather than following the Jewish lead in dismissing it as a “fake.” My main objection to that latter reasoning is to say there are NOT other things just as good, or even better, than the Protocols. MacDonald’s work, and William Pierce’s writings and radio programs, are NOT in the same ballpark, do not have the same effect. If they were, the Jewish leadership would find a way to get at them too. The Protocols are in the same ballpark as The International Jew, and maybe one could say Mein Kampf.

I think it’s likely the Protocols were put out by the strongly Christian element, in response to the attack on Christian churches, clergy and culture, etc. by the revolutionary atheist communist Jews. It seemed like the end of the world was coming, and in Russia it did. It came later in Europe, but most still haven’t recognized it because they are “comfortable.” Most real Christians “believe in” the Protocols, while most anti-Christians criticize and attack them in the same way the communist Jews do. This is an impasse we consistently have.

Carolyn wrote: January 27, 2014 at 11:00 am
I think we have been waylaid by the Jew once again in regard to The Protocols. Both Henry Ford and Adolf Hitler recognized them as true and highly effective against Jewish power. But we allow ourselves to be as if tied up — not allowed to take hold of this powerful weapon against our enemy, a weapon that was given to us by somebody. Just think, arguing about who it came from, as if that matters.

When someone places a powerful weapon in your hand as you are battling for your life, you just use it! You are a fool if you don’t.
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But you need to know the limitations of that weapon and how to use it properly.

OK, listening to your latest HH program I see your view of the value of the Protocols are more nuanced than I understood. You talk of the “practical value” of using them rather than the absolute origins of them.

I think the Protocols are most likely an expose of organised Jewry’s methods and game plan to take control of us. Written as a warning by someone very opposed to those plans.

If they are presented in the above way I think they can be more effectively used for our cause than by calling them the genuine conspiratorial writings of jewish elders of zion, which makes our position an unnecessary ‘all or nothing’ affair and subject to ridicule.

Thanks for your weighted response to Katana over the Protocols of Zion Carolyn. I take it as a valuable teaching lesson.

I recently listened to Michael Collins Piper’s recent podcast (on Sandy Hook) since he got out of the hospital, and he said, with great emphasis, “Carolyn is no fool. She’s no dummy.” Not that you need MCP’s validation, Carolyn, but I found your advice here so sharp and well-reasoned that MCP’s own words apply here, in my estimation.

Hadding argues that there are better things and/or other things to use against the Jews that are just as good. Whenever I ask what they are, he always responds with Pierce’s essay about Jews controlling the media. And I always say, That is not the same, is not as powerful, and not even in the same class as the Protocols.

I think we have been waylaid by the Jew once again in regard to The Protocols. Both Henry Ford and Adolf Hitler recognized them as true and highly effective against Jewish power. But we allow ourselves to be as if tied up — not allowed to take hold of this powerful weapon against our enemy, a weapon that was given to us by somebody. Just think, arguing about who it came from, as if that matters.

When someone places a powerful weapon in your hand as you are battling for your life, you just use it! You are a fool if you don’t.

In other words the Protocols show, regardless of authorship, the mindset and strategy of “International Jewry”, and its long term plans. I tend to think the actual Protocols are indeed fake or a forgery, yet at the same time are “genuine” in that they reflect the strategy and spirit of organized jewry.

Whether a jew or anti-jew wrote them, International Jewry and its non-jew brainwashed army are destroying us today by engineering wars, by subverting every everything decent, by mass third world immigration and so on.