The Golden Dawn party in Greece is presently the primary interest for Alex Linder of VNN Forum. Our conversation started and ended with it, but in between he also talked about Anders Breivik, the gun control legislation Obama is trying to pass, and infighting in the “movement” – how it should and shouldn’t be done. Some of the points made:

• Why a nationalist party could gain success in Greece, but not elsewhere in Europe or the U.S.;
• Only young men will carry out a revolutionary movement;
• Must say clearly that “we are White and want what is good for Whites;
• Begin organizing from national conditions or on a state or regional basis?;
• How much individualism can be tolerated in a political party manifesto;
• Sandy Hook and Gun Control – planned or accidental;
• Alex’s thread on Strategy.

An email from Paul and a phone call from Stuart added to the show. Missed an email from Stuart telling me the militias are alive and well, see here. Sorry about the abrupt closing – my fault.

Two men with very distinct personalities and followings meet each other for the first time on this program, revealing in the ensuing exchange that the division among White Nationalists over religion is deeper than any other disagreement. Will Williams, who was associated with William Pierce when he was alive, manages The Legacy of Dr. William Pierce and is a vehement foe of Christianity. William Finck is owner of Christogenea, a Christian Identity site, and it’s subdomain The Mein Kampf Project. Other topics discussed:

• Was Adolf Hitler a Christian, a nominal Christian, or anti-Christian?
• What sources for Hitler’s direct statements about religion are reliable?
• The Sandy Hook “shooting” as a pretext for strict gun control laws;
• How ordinary people can best lobby against the gun control legislation being pushed by the Obama administration;
• What kind of guns do ordinary people need to own for effective self-defence;
• The prevalence of false footage used in television news reports, as in a recent Anderson Cooper/CNN segment;
• David Duke makes cozy with Gordon Duff on his radio show;
• Public trust in government and business leaders is very low in a recent poll; time to take advantage of that?

Hadding Scott and Walt Hampton called in during the 2nd hour.

This program looks into the question of just how far media manipulation can go in an agenda of conditioning our minds to the desired perceptions.   Carolyn thinks psyops, originally military-style Psychological Operations, have become increasingly used domestically (with the help of the public’s dependence on television), while her guest Hadding Scott dismisses such an idea as impossible to keep from being revealed. However, they are revealed but most people refuse to accept that such “Big Lies” could or would be carried out.

The discussion centers around the Sandy Hook “massacre” in Newtown, Conn. Among the ideas offered:

• Information “warfare” has always been accepted as a legitimate way to reach political objectives; movies and television are the primary vehicles now;
• News media like CNN can show us a “fictive” world that is based in truth, but not the whole, relevant or contextual truth;
• Already in 1995, there existed the capability of combining live actors with computer-generated video graphics to create a “virtual” scene;
• Psychological warfare, a component of information operations,  is intended mainly to demoralize the opposition so that they won’t fight;
• Gun control legislation appears to be the primary political objective (also called national objective) of the Sandy Hook televised event;
• And much more.

Image: Anderson Cooper, a former CIA trainee, is engaged in information warfare as a news presenter at CNN.

Prof. Kevin MacDonald assesses the situation for White Advocacy as 2012 comes to a close. After the wake-up call of the national election, now there is the shock of the 20 children murdered in their kindergarten classroom in Connecticut.  Discussion during the 2nd hour included:

• The good news is a crop of new writers and Internet sites that focus on White people’s issues;
• The bad news is we can’t get onto mainstream TV, even for an interview;
• Very strong anti-communist America First movement in the 30’s and 40’s was ended in an instant by Pearl Harbor, essentially a false-flag event;
• Strategies to use when The Second Amendment is seriously challenged in 2013 in the wake of the Connecticut shootings;
• The dismal state of psychiatry  today, and the overuse of poorly understood drugs;
• Blame for most of what’s gone wrong can be placed on the liberal revolution that began in the 1960’s.

Problems with the call-in system plus human error caused some delay at the beginning of the 2nd hour.

In the first hour, Carolyn attempts to put some finality to her researches into the Protocols of the Learned Elders of Zion by showing that the origin and authorship still cannot be known for certain. Thus the value of the Protocols lies in its ability to reveal changes in Western nations that result from wars and revolutions, as they have actually occurred, and how they were carried out and by whom. If this is not good enough for some people, then they will see the Protocols as having no, or too little, value. Carolyn still rates this document as having, on balance, an important contribution to make.