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I think you two make a great team. I suggest that you tackle Mein Kampf after you finish with TiJ. It might not be the most challenging book to review but it would be very edifying.
For SH, I still lean toward the likelihood of some fabrication. The kill rate is too high, as Don was saying. The lack of examination of the crime scenes and victim evidence is too great, and reminds one of 9/11 and TWA 800, cases where the evidence was kept from impartial review. Also the occurrence of a drill for the same day is very strange. For example, why wouldn’t a psychopath select the day before, or after, for greater irony? Wouldn’t he imagine that on the very day of a drill the chances of being stopped would be greatest? But on the same day, the control is highest for TPTB. And spiriting the children away for a pervert camp is a plausible solution. The kids must be a nuisance to kidnap one at a time. Why not grab a bunch, and further gun control/daddy government all in one go? You can just imagine the things they must workshop.
Although I’m sympathetic to your take on Sandy Hook there are some practical aspects about it that stops me from seeing it as a hoax (as in, no kids were killed).
In the official story we’ve got twenty odd children killed for a start. They would be known, by say, say at least a hundred or more other children, and also their parents in the community. So if no kids were killed, wouldn’t there be a lot of gossip in the real community about who were the actual kids killed?
Then we have the issue with the local authorities, such as the police and ambulance crews, etc. They all talk among themselves and gossip travels fast in those community. A lot of stand down time results in a lot of talking.
So what about the extremely high kill rate to wounded? That does seem odd. But if the kids are bunched together and the killer is shooting repeatedly then that might well be the outcome.
The lack of photos? Well, if the whole thing was a hoax then creating photos could have easily been manufactured.
The extent of a hoax that I would find plausible, is that all the deaths are real, but carried out not by the alleged killer but by a team. That requires a minimal number of conspirators. Maybe two or three at the sharp edge. A team could ensure no injured, only dead.
9/11 left hard physical evidence of conspiracy with the impossibility of the three WTC building destroying themselves spontaneously. The plain and obvious explanation is that they were demolished by explosives.
In a previous program Martin indicated that all these sort of actions are fake and that no one is harmed directly. I don’t think so. Martin was also very coy when you asked him point blank about jews.
The people behind our wars wouldn’t blink about ‘collateral damage’.
In summary, Sandy Hook ‘happened’ and it’s going to be exploited to the hilt to disarm Americans. To make us defenseless.
I stated clearly in this program that I would not call it a false flag or a hoax, but distinctively a PSYOP. That’s why I wanted to do this topic of Psyops – to make a clear definition. It’s true I was using the word hoax on the Jan. 5 show with Martin and Don. Note that I compare it to Holocaust at times, but I still say Holohoax and use the word “hoax” for it, but Sandy Hook is a psyop. I think this difference is real and important. 9/11 and Oklahoma City were also psyops. Hadding correctly used the word “staged” for it. The Holohoax was not staged but grew out of opportunities, not least being the ability of the “Victors” to totally silence an entire nation from defending itself against the total blame placed on it.
I also said in this program that I couldn’t/wouldn’t say no one was killed. I think some obviously were. But it remains true that “communications technology” has advanced “weaponry” in the form of creating digital images that look real. They can do it; therefore they probably do do it. The people at Clues Forum spend their time looking for evidence of it. I think that’s a worthwhile pastime.
You’re tending to make assumptions, such as:
I don’t think first-graders would necessarily be known by many others. Nor even their parents. In our communities today, we know less about one another than we do about what’s on television. These people don’t seem to know each other. It doesn’t feel at all like a “close community.”
Again, I don’t think this is necessarily so. Police and emergency medical are instructed to behave in a professional manner and not talk with outsiders about what they learn and deal with ‘on the job.’ If they talked to the Press on their own they would be fired or strongly reprimanded — it would be bad for their career. Emergency medical were not allowed in to see the bodies; to determine if anyone could be saved. The police determined that … and the Coroner, whenever he arrived, if at all.
If you keep people from knowing or seeing anything, what are they going to gossip about? When you immediately play up the “heroism” of teachers and principal who died “defending the children”, who is going to have the nerve to say otherwise? It’s a herding of the sheep into the pen, and because of the nature of sheep they all want to stay with the others. This is why the perps can be confident in their risky ventures.
Not even a team could ensure that. If the police arrived quickly after the school alarm went off (which it should have as soon as the front entrance glass was broken) or the first 911 call came in, they could have interrupted the shooting and the team would have to flee without making sure everyone was dead. There are always survivors. The 7 children supposedly found in Victoria Soto’s closet have NOT testified that they heard huge amount of automatic gunfire going on in the room, enough to kill six children and two teachers. Now Yale Univ. experts have advised police investigators NOT to interview these children as to what they saw and heard, based on it being too traumatic!!!!! That doesn’t fly. If they ever do interview these kids, it will be after plenty of counseling and changing their memories.
There are many more anomalies that cannot be explained, and no attempt has yet been made to do so. They are doing a faster job of destroying all evidence that could be studied — immediate turning the kids over to funeral homes and burial; now wanting to demolish the school. Your idea that it happened and is being exploited for gun control is like the 9/11 LIHOP, but I think you are a believer in MIHOP, are you not?
You could develop a school of thought for recognizing psy-ops and call it “psy-optics”.
I still like Dr. Pierce’s wisdom from 15 years ago about this subject of school shootings; it supports Hadding’s position of pointing to Jewish media control forming mass opinion.
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April 1998 American Dissident Voices speech:
by Dr. William L. Pierce
“…[T]here are other signs of what Jewish media control has done to America which are seen by everyone, and I hope that at least a few White Americans are being awakened by these signs.
“An especially tragic sign was the killing of four White schoolchildren and a White teacher in Jonesboro, Arkansas, a few days ago. This is the third mass killing of schoolchildren by other children in the past five months. The media bosses put on a pretense of being mystified. ‘How could this happen?’ they ask. And then they supply the answer to their question. The reason for all of the killings is the easy availability of guns, they tell us.
“But that explanation is nonsense, and they know it. Fifty years ago, when I was in school, kids had even more access to guns than they do now, but they didn’t massacre their classmates. When I was in school there were virtually no gun-control laws or other restrictions, and more of the population was rural than now — which meant that using guns regularly was a part of the lives of more schoolchildren. So it’s certainly not easier access to guns which has made the climate in America’s schools murderous. Guns haven’t caused the change which has taken place in America.
“You know what has caused the change, but let me tell you anyway. Actually, there have been two changes. One is the consequence of the loss of racial and cultural homogeneity in our schools. It used to be that a school was like a big extended family. The teachers were all White, and so were the kids. There was a sense of community. But that sense of community is long gone. Even in areas which are still mostly White, such as Jonesboro, the alienation caused by the diversity-mongers has become a major factor in the antisocial actions of many children. One of the young killers, Mitchell Johnson, idolized Black culture and often pretended to be a member of the Bloods gang.
“The other factor is the influence of television on children’s lives, on their behavior, on their attitudes. And I’m not talking simply about television violence. I’m talking about the pervasive influence, the pervasive effect of television altogether. It distorts a child’s grip on reality. The child exposed to five or six hours of television every day, all of his life — and that’s most American children today — loses his ability to distinguish between the real world and the imaginary world he sees on the television screen. The connection between the child’s actions and the consequences of his actions becomes fuzzy in his mind. The child fails to develop a normal sense of responsibility.
“Of course, I’m generalizing. The effect of television is much stronger on some children than on others. Some children do maintain a fairly good grip on reality and do grow up to be more or less responsible adults. But the average effects of television are still there, and they manifest themselves in the sort of tragedy we had in Jonesboro a few days ago. This never happened before we had racial integration and television, but it will happen more and more often in the future as so-called ‘diversity’ and its consequent alienation continue to grow, and the influence of television remains with us.
“Probably it already has occurred to you, but the Clinton attempt to make a Federal judge out of this Massiah-Jackson creature in Philadelphia and the tragedy in Jonesboro are not unrelated. Both are things which couldn’t have happened when we had a sane country. The corruption of the political system and the judicial system on the one hand and the alienation of our children on the other hand, their loss of their sense of community and their sense of responsibility, go together. We fell victim to both of these afflictions as a consequence of losing control of our society, of letting things get entirely out of hand, of abdicating our responsibility to maintain control over our own destiny. And in order to have a sane and healthy society again we must take charge of our own affairs again.
“That is easy to say, ‘we must take charge of our own affairs,’ but how do we actually do it?
“Well, it’s always been my belief that in order to do anything successfully — especially if it’s a difficult or complex thing — we ought to try to understand it first. And if we want to get ourselves out of a mess, part of what we need to understand is how we got into the mess in the first place: how did we lose control of our affairs? I’ve explored various aspects of that question in the past. I’ll restate briefly one of my most important conclusions.
“We failed to understand the absolutely essential role of the mass media, the media of news and entertainment, in the development of our modern society until we had lost control of those media. We failed to understand that as a society grows and becomes more complex and more centralized, the mass media become the principal organs in the society for shaping public opinion; they take the place of the direct person-to-person communication which characterizes simple and non-centralized societies.
“By shaping public opinion the media are able to play a decisive role in formulating public policy and in determining the makeup of the government. We didn’t understand that — or at least we didn’t understand it fully — until, during the course of this century, a small and alien minority had insinuated itself into a position of dominance over the media. That small and alien minority, of course, is the Jews…”
More, here: http://www.natvan.com/free-speech/fs984a.html
Carolyn-
Thanks for staying on the Sandy Hook story. Also, please go to this link and scroll down and check out the photo of Victoria Sota’s sisters and family posing with Anderson Cooper. Do these people look grief-stricken??
http://cluesforum.info/viewtopic.php?f=24&t=1521&start=690
Also, people should check this video out as well:
Anderson Cooper Response: Sandy Hook Conspiracy
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7G-UNwE1pWU
Now, at about the 5 min mark, compare the grief of the Sandy Hook parents to that of the father who lost a son in Afghanistan. Something is terribly wrong with what we are being shown about Sandy Hook.
Another theory that is making the rounds is that the idea of actors being used is itself a psy-op, and additionally the killings—if real—were occult or ritual killings. The idea here is that the layout of the school resembles some old temple in Latin America, and that the gods needed to be appeased nearing the deadline of 21 December. So part of what psy-optics should accomplish is to focus the lens productively. What is not known, what is withheld, and how does it lead us from our goal of self-determination for White (i.e. European) people.
Amanda – I don’t think we should judge by how grief-stricken relatives “look.” The Soto family seldom showed grief. But many people today think of death differently — they really believe their loved one is still around in spirit, that none of us really “die” but exist in a different realm or dimension. This is New-Age-ism.
Carl – Also the occurrence of a drill for the same day is very strange.
A similar thing is claimed for the day of the 7/7 bombings in London. An exercise ‘just happened’ to occurring at the same time.
I dont know what to make of Sandy Hook, something just isnt right.
Thanks for another great show, Carolyn. And thank you for your contribution Hadding.
Katana,I wasn’t ‘coy’ about Jews. I’ve expressed my views in another post about this. We’ve heard of Gene Rosen’s role in this PSYOP, and we’re aware of the determination of Dianne Feinstein and Hilary Clinton to push through gun control measures.
On the other hand, the individual claiming to be Robbie Parker, didn’t look particularly Jewish, did he? Whether you like it or not, the CIA and Yale University are home to a white elite that is part of the Fifth Column.
Furthermore, I never claimed that ‘all these actions are fake.’ The same techniques are not employed in exactly the same way, or combination, in every psychological operation. Empty buildings may be detonated (for real), and fake victims presented. Nowadays, digital portraits will typically be used for the images of the attacker, but not always for the victims, where actors may occasionally be used, or a mixture of both.
Finally, the issue with whistleblowers is that the public never gets to hear about them. The point is, there are gatekeepers in the policing and media establishment! For example, we currently know of over 400 alleged victims in the Savile abuse controversy here in the UK. Most of these people complained to the relevant authorities in the 1970s and were simply ignored. We never got to hear about them back then; now, when the establishment WANTS us to know about them, they can be found everywhere.
Two things are certain:
1) While the discussion is centered upon Sandy Hook and other distractions,
2) the most powerful prima facie smoking gun in history, the obvious controlled demolition of WTC-7, is further forgotten.
Carolyn is right, and the psyops are working!
>There are many more anomalies that cannot be explained, and no attempt has yet been made to do so. They are doing a faster job of destroying all evidence that could be studied — immediate turning the kids over to funeral homes and burial; now wanting to demolish the school.
Since listening to your podcast I’ve had a look at some of the videos. One in particular, of Robbie Parker making a statement to the media, was particularly odd. The way he suddenly switched in an instant from a calm, joking and even smirking demeanor into a choked up suffering father looked really fake. As they say, he looked just like he was acting out a part.
Also he said (about 3 minutes in), ‘as we move on from what happened here …’ This sounds like a politician speaking and not a grieving father so soon after the event. All very strange.
>Your idea that it happened and is being exploited for gun control is like the 9/11 LIHOP,
Not quite. My idea is that if this was staged then the perps would involve as few people as possible, i.e., just the killers were in the know. All the rest are not part of it. Yes, re gun control.
But now, since looking at that video of Robbie Parker, I’m warming up to it being a much bigger thing. BTW, I must confess that I’ve paid no attention at all to this incident until I listened to your podcast yesterday.
>but I think you are a believer in MIHOP, are you not?
Yes. Jews and goy collaborators cooked up and carried out the whole 9/11 thing, with the Arabs playing the patsy role. The twin towers were destroyed top down by explosives (with the plane damage used as a fig leaf), while WTC 7 was brought down, bottom up, with no fig leaf.
I have stated this elsewhere but I will state it here again. Fifty years ago if you doubted the JFK explanation you were labeled a kook. Now nobody believes the official story the argument now is who really did it and why.
A large portion of the population does not believe the 911 story.
Finally we are less than a month from Sandy Hook and already we have people disputing the official story.
This tells me that in the long run people think that it is plausible to believe that our government will kill members of the populace. Amongst us there is a growing and vocal minority of the citizenry that do not and will not believe anything the authority tells us.
Add to this all of the “minor” conspiracy theories, such as the CIA selling dope on our streets, designer viruses developed by the military, etc.
By that could we not deduce that the government has lost the trust
of the populace and by extension the concent of the governed?
My last comment makes more sense if the sentence beginning with “Add” is moved before the sentence beginning with “This.”
Mr. Williams, I quoted from exactly the same speech by Dr. Pierce when the Sandy Hook incident was first brought up on the RODOH forum a couple of weeks ago. I believe Dr. Pierce was spot on concerning the reasons behind the rise in school shootings in America.
Carolyn seems to like her conspiracies so I must thank Hadding for coming on this show and being a lone voice of reason (again). 😉
Despite the subject matter I found the Saturday Afternoon shows on this topic to be very entertaining. Listening to these shows even tempted me to look at some YouTube videos on the Sandy Hook incident.
Robbie Parker. Lol! Get real, it will take more than him laughing (nervously? as some people do) before going on camera to convince me that no children were killed, the entire town is in the pay of the government, and he is just an actor.
Parker comes across as a typical middle class moron who was weaned on MTV. As a result he seems to have no self-respect and probably never even thought twice before becoming part of the media circus discussing the murder of his own daughter on primetime TV. Robbie Parker is the ideal citizen of the future.
Hadding is correct in bringing the mass media into the frame for causing this type of crime. The US government has no need to fabricate mass murder because they know these types of incidents will grow in regularity as American society falls apart.
The only thing not in doubt about this whole tragic affair is that the Jews and their willing helpers will attempt to promote the further erosion of the Second Amendment rights of US citizens. Like Robbie Parker the average US citizen of today has lost his will to fight back. Let me paraphrase something Dr. Pierce once said: The Jewish poison paralyses the will before destroying the body.
The danger of conspiracy theories is that they can be so much fun that people don’t want to return to reality. In some ways I don’t blame them. All I see in the future unless something changes radically is further doom and gloom as our racial homelands continue to be overrun with subhumans without a shot being fired in anger to defend them.
As for the mysterious Brit named Martin: I say he is a wind up merchant.
He spread disinformation about the Hungerford Massacre amongst other things which is easily refuted here.
1.) The St Margaret Hospital was not run by the British military during the Hungerford Massacre.
2.) British Paratroopers do not run military hospitals in Britain or anywhere else.
3.) The only military involvement in this incident was this: “At 4pm the RAF hospital at nearby Wroughton made contact with the Accident and Emergency department of the Princess Margaret, informing staff there that it was in a position to take the next two serious and six minor casualties. It was a generous offer, designed to relieve the pressure building up at the Swindon hospital, and it was gratefully accepted.”
I recommend Lone Wolf: true stories of spree killers ©2000 Virgin publishing to anyone interested in the subject of maniacs who go mental with guns. Killers included are:
Michael Ryan
Thomas Hamilton
Benjamin Nathaniel Smith
Mark Orris Barton
Burford Furrow
Martin Bryant
Larry Gene Ashbrook
There is another chapter covering other gun killers like the evil Jew, Dr. Baruch Goldstein (now treated as a hero and martyr in Israel). The book closes with what I think are some very well thought out psychiatric assessments of the perpetrators of this type of crime.
Charles Traynor – Let me simplify this and just ask what you, Will Williams, Hadding Scott, and other White Nationalists plan to do to thwart Obama’s new campaign against gun ownership. I doubt that Congress will vote against whatever legislation he comes up with, on the basis that it will just affect the “nut cases” you yourself agree with. But of course, it will be a foot in the door and continue to grow from there.
My answer to my question of what you are going to do is … nothing. You will all do nothing, while you point to the “average US citizen of today who has lost his will to fight back” as the problem. You will all do nothing because you don’t want to believe that this is a govt. intelligence/media joint effort. According to all three of you, we just need to get rid of these lone nuts that give the Jewish media an excuse to push their political agenda against Whites.
Where are your shots? The shots of any of you busy typing on forums. White men own a lot of guns, but only for self-defense. They can’t defend a White nation, let alone form one. They are completely outmaneuvred, and it shows.
We’ll see if Martin responds to you about the Hungerford Massacre.
Charles Traynor…
Hansard refers to the RAF Hospital in Wroughton (the nearby Princess Alexandra) here, with Nicholas Soames referring to the number of beds it had provided to the Princess Margaret hospital:
http://hansard.millbanksystems.com/written_answers/1995/feb/10/raf-hospital-wroughton
On this page, Soames clearly states that for several years over 17,000 NHS in-patient and day-patient attendances were recorded annually at the Princess Alexandra’s Royal Air Force hospital.
Furthermore, at the link below you will see that the Parachute Regiment was involved at the Princess Margaret:
http://www.paradata.org.uk/people/robert-c-shepherd
Major Robert C Shepherd is identified as Commanding Officer Army Element at Princess Margaret Hospital, retiring in 1988. His full service history is covered in detail. The data comes directly from the Para unit itself.
There is nothing mysterious about me, Charles! I’ve done my research and it’s all posted online at cluesforum. As for you, are you seriously prepared to reject this information (quite easy to find wih a simple web search) and insist that a Virgin Publishing book on spree killers is a more reliable source?!
Those who want to learn more about the updates to the Sandy Hook event, and those who NEED to learn more, would do well to read what James Tracy has on his blog http://memoryholeblog.com.
Of course, be careful. I don’t trust Webster Tarpley at all. I think Tracy is a liberal, but he is still doing a careful job.
There are many, many people focused on the gun-rights issue, most of them having no direct connection to White Nationalism. This issue is not going to be significantly affected by White Nationalists. Personally I have other useful things to do.
However, if a WN wants to do anything relating to the issue, there are points that could be made about
(1) Jews and gun-control,
(2) Non-Whites and violent crime,
(3) Atomization of society (caused by multiracialism and economic determinism) as the basis of random violence.
All of this is clearly demonstrable. Robert Putnam can be cited for the fact that multiracialism causes social atomization.
Your conspiracy-theory (and it’s not even clear to me what that is at this point, since you are not calling the incident a hoax) is not demonstrable, and is counterproductive even to discuss, so far as convincing reasonable people is concerned.
I wrote;
‘In a previous program Martin indicated that all these sort of actions are fake and that no one is harmed directly. I don’t think so. Martin was also very coy when you asked him point blank about jews.’
>Martin
>Katana,I wasn’t ‘coy’ about Jews. I’ve expressed my views in another post about this. We’ve heard of Gene Rosen’s role in this PSYOP, and we’re aware of the determination of Dianne Feinstein and Hilary Clinton to push through gun control measures.
In the podcast you mentioned all these other officially non jewish groups and organizations playing a role. On prodding by Carolyn you then said that jews are ‘over represented’.
What I’d like to know is, do you think jews are our major problem or just one of several problem groups?
> On the other hand, the individual claiming to be Robbie Parker, didn’t look particularly Jewish, did he?
I think you’re implying that only jews work for jewish interests. Isn’t it natural that non jews would be used by jews? I mean they use the US military to do their bidding!
>Whether you like it or not, the CIA and Yale University are home to a white elite that is part of the Fifth Column.
I’d like to hear more from you about the Fifth Column, white elite and the role of jews.
>Furthermore, I never claimed that ‘all these actions are fake.’
OK, I was generalizing.
> The same techniques are not employed in exactly the same way, or combination, in every psychological operation.
Empty buildings may be detonated (for real), and fake victims presented. Nowadays, digital portraits will typically be used for the images of the attacker, but not always for the victims, where actors may occasionally be used, or a mixture of both.
Getting kind of off-topic, but, what’s your summary of 9/11? Do you think a few thousand were killed? And what part of the buildings destruction do you think was faked?
Thanks.
>Charles Traynor wrote:
>Robbie Parker. Lol! Get real, it will take more than him laughing (nervously? as some people do) before going on camera to convince me that no children were killed, the entire town is in the pay of the government, and he is just an actor.
Have you watched the video? He doesn’t come across as someone nervous, joking around. He comes across as an actor joking around with the ‘crew’ before doing a poor job performing as a grieving father.
Does the whole ‘conspiracy’ rest on this? Of course not. It’s just one thing of many things that paint a picture of something not adding up with the info with have been given so far.
>Parker comes across as a typical middle class moron who was weaned on MTV. As a result he seems to have no self-respect and probably never even thought twice before becoming part of the media circus discussing the murder of his own daughter on primetime TV. Robbie Parker is the ideal citizen of the future.
Even someone ‘weaned on MTV’, wouldn’t behave in the way he did. His behavior is consistent with someone acting. Then we have all the other videos of grieving relatives, time after time making out they are crying and wiping away non-existent tears.
As for the town being involved in a conspiracy, well, that most certainly is too much. But from town involvement all the way down to just a lone gunman there is a range of manipulation available if we are dealing with manipulators with unlimited resources.
Anyway, there is something strange going on with Sandy Hook.
As you said yourself, it is up to those professing an event took place in a certain way to DEMONSTRATE with evidence that it did. The police who have “solved” the case have not done that. It’s not up to people like me to demonstrate exactly what did happen. This is the case in all the events that you want to believe occurred just as the police say they did — all these “crazed lone gunmen.” And the crazed Arabs in the airplanes.
Otherwise, your points are good.Yes, let the millions of gun-rights people fight this, and let WN’s aid in their efforts, but probably quietly.
As far as counterproductive, if we could wake white people up to the Govt-Media conspiracy against our legitimate interests, we would win. As long as people believe what they read in newspapers & magazines, see on TV, and what Washington D.C. tells them, we lose. We can’t avoid this job because it’s tough to convince people. Actually, more and more people are catching on.
Carolyn wrote:
My answer to my question of what you are going to do is … nothing. You will all do nothing, while you point to the “average US citizen of today who has lost his will to fight back” as the problem. You will all do nothing because you don’t want to believe that this is a govt. intelligence/media joint effort. According to all three of you, we just need to get rid of these lone nuts that give the Jewish media an excuse to push their political agenda against Whites.
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If you can provide solid evidence backed by cold hard facts that the govt. intelligence/media worked together to create the massacre of the innocents at Sandy Hook I will become a believer. Until then I will continue to doubt.
Why would the US government even risk being caught committing this type of spectacular psyop when all they have to do is allow normal everyday television programming to rot the minds of their citizens?
I will concede this. If the government thought they could get away with pulling off something like this to further their political goals I have no doubt they would choose to do so in an instant. I just don’t believe that day has yet come.
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Carolyn wrote:
Where are your shots? The shots of any of you busy typing on forums. White men own a lot of guns, but only for self-defense. They can’t defend a White nation, let alone form one. They are completely outmaneuvred, and it shows.
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I admit it does not look good, Carolyn. I hope your White Network shows will help shake a few more White men out of their torpor. Rising up today in an armed struggle against the State would be suicidal and any fighters could only expect to be hunted down and killed like dogs very quickly. Our only hope for survival is by stripping the Jews of their monopoly of the news and entertainment industry. Only after that has been achieved can we begin rebuilding our civilization and deprogramming the millions of lemmings who currently live only to watch light entertainment shows on the television.
Martin Wrote:
There is nothing mysterious about me, Charles! I’ve done my research and it’s all posted online at cluesforum. As for you, are you seriously prepared to reject this information (quite easy to find wih a simple web search) and insist that a Virgin Publishing book on spree killers is a more reliable source?!
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Martin, I suspect both the Internet and Virgin publishing could be controlled by NATO and any information gathered from those sources must be treated with suspicion. 😉
I actually found the piece about the hospital on the Internet.
Martin Wrote:
Furthermore, at the link below you will see that the Parachute Regiment was involved at the Princess Margaret:
http://www.paradata.org.uk/people/robert-c-shepherd
Major Robert C Shepherd is identified as Commanding Officer Army Element at Princess Margaret Hospital, retiring in 1988. His full service history is covered in detail. The data comes directly from the Para unit itself.
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Nice try Martin, but Major Shepherd was a member of the Royal Army Medical Corps and not a Para. He did complete P Company training in 1961 and served with 23 Parachute Field Ambulance from 1961-1973. After that he went back to standard RAMC work in various other postings for the rest of his military career.
It is not a State secret that members of the RAMC and Special Forces work in NHS hospitals to get hands on experience with real casualties. Major Shepherd led the “army element” attached to the St Margaret Hospital as an RAMC officer, not a Para.
Martin Wrote:
Hansard refers to the RAF Hospital in Wroughton (the nearby Princess Alexandra) here, with Nicholas Soames referring to the number of beds it had provided to the Princess Margaret hospital:
http://hansard.millbanksystems.com/written_answers/1995/feb/10/raf-hospital-wroughton
On this page, Soames clearly states that for several years over 17,000 NHS in-patient and day-patient attendances were recorded annually at the Princess Alexandra’s Royal Air Force hospital.
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Nothing suspicious here. There was probably a shortage of NHS facilities in the district so the NHS cut a deal with the RAF to treat some of their patients. Sounds like good use of resources to me.
Martin, you claim to have researched this subject in-depth, therefore, you know more about this topic than me. Please give me the one piece of solid evidence that cannot be refuted which proves the Hungerford Massacre was a British government Psych Op.
Katana Wrote:
Have you watched the video? He doesn’t come across as someone nervous, joking around. He comes across as an actor joking around with the ‘crew’ before doing a poor job performing as a grieving father.
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I have watched it and came to the same conclusion as you at first. Don’t forget that many American these days can’t even get out of bed in the morning without taking a cocktail of drugs. Who knows what mind bending potions this guy has been self administering or what he may have been given by State psychologists or doctors prior to this news conference?
On a more concessionary note I do believe the behaviour of some of those bereaved families was a bit weird. Having said that, I am not an American and am therefore not really qualified to comment on what is acceptable behaviour within your culture at a time like this.
Agreed. 😉
I just saw the Parker gaffe, of breathing to go onstage. I agree with the professor of communications in Florida. We have been conditioned to be duped. The conditioning is firmly established with the growth and success of the Holocaust myth.
“…Nice try Martin, but Major Shepherd was a member of the Royal Army Medical Corps and not a Para. He did complete P Company training in 1961 and served with 23 Parachute Field Ambulance from 1961-1973. After that he went back to standard RAMC work in various other postings for the rest of his military career.
“It is not a State secret that members of the RAMC and Special Forces work in NHS hospitals to get hands on experience with real casualties. Major Shepherd led the “army element” attached to the St Margaret Hospital as an RAMC officer, not a Para…”
In other words, you now admit the RAF/military connections to Princess Margaret hospital, near Wroughton. Even if they didn’t technically run the hospital, they could easily have participated in and run programmes/operations somewhere within the building, with the consent of management.
You won’t ever find 100% evidence because it doesn’t work like that, by design. What I’ve done is search for clues, relevant information and circumstantial evidence and weave together my hypothesis. Also, you haven’t explained why you see a Virgin Publishing book on spree killers as an authoritative source!
You have it backward, Charles. It is the government, the police and the media who are required to provide solid evidence that what they are all claiming took place actually did. I know the police can say they will provide that to the state or federal prosecutors when they have completed their “investigation,” but all three have already claimed many, many things without showing any evidence. Until they do, people should continue to doubt.
In fact, the doubters have provided more persuasive evidence for their views than have the authorities. “Why would …? Why would …? It is easy to put it that way, however … again … WE don’t have to have answers to that. We can’t answer such questions until the facts of the event are revealed and people are questioned under oath. Just like with 9/11. True facts first.
Hadding Scott nailed it when he said that shooting accidents happen so often (in the US 14.000???) that there is no need to create them. They simply use the ones that they can use to enforce wierd laws.
To me, as a European, the whole Sandy Hook thing is just one of those shootings that seem to happen so often in the US. The shock element is that the victims are small childeren.
It may be true that in theory ‘they’ don’t need to stage events. But that’s only true because of how deranged White society has already become, from what they have previously staged, and done. Also, surely they would be restless to try new things. Anyway we’re seeing the usual things, such as quickly removed evidence and details unstudied. And the strange acting behavior is quite something. Breathing like that…. That’s going into character!
It is encouraging to see how quickly the doubts went mainstream.
To A. from Flanders: You don’t understand about the U.S. The kind of events “they” can use to change the country and force new laws that “they” could never pass otherwise don’t just happen. They are staged because what might happen naturally is not big enough or specialized enough to be useful for their purposes. They need special designer events with White people involved, not generic crime. Since they are the perps, they have to create “patsies;” these patsies never pass the evidence test. Neither does the crime scene.
You live in Belgium, headquarters of the European Union, where the White people accepted slavery in exchange for “security” and welfare long ago. Here, we still have the constitutional guarantees of free speech and gun rights that you don’t have, and still some willingness to fight to keep them. You are biased in your own favor, and are too ready to believe the propaganda without studying the facts. The facts emerging from the Sandy Hook shooting in the month since it occurred point indisputably to a psyop, not to a real, spontaneous event.
To Carl: It can’t be true they don’t need to stage events. If they didn’t need to, they wouldn’t do it. We are not a deranged society, but only too trusting of authorities and too disengaged via planned distractions. It’s true the huge amount of mood-altering drugs being prescribed is another social destabilization tactic, but these drugged-up people going berserk could never accomplish feats like Oklahoma City (which ended the popularity of citizen militias) or the Sikh Temple shooting or Sandy Hook. They wouldn’t manage to kill more than a few. Don’t give the nay-sayers, and those who want to retreat into denial, an inch, but force them to see the reality.
The point that Hilmar was making earlier about the emphasis on the ‘centrality in our lives’ of government schools and teachers is another aspect of this designer event. Even more money and more regimentation and more indoctrination “for safety” in the schools?
Another suspicious element of the event (to me) is that all the children were white, ie odd that it was not a school more representative of ‘America’? It reminds us that the main target of media manipulation is always whites.
I am glad you have now seen sense enough to agree that the St Margaret was an NHS hospital and not a military hospital run by the Paras. I suggest you use the freedom of information act to establish whether or not members of the military attached to the hospital were actually on duty on the day of the shooting.
That figures. 😉
Strawman argument. The book and my opinion of it are irrelevant to a shooting which had taken place over a decade before it was published. You can pick up a used copy of the book from Amazon for under a dollar and judge for yourself why I liked it.
http://www.amazon.com/s/ref=nb_sb_noss?url=search-alias%3Dstripbooks&field-keywords=lone+wolf+pan+pantziarkka&rh=n%3A283155%2Ck%3Alone+wolf+pan+pantziarkka
I’m very busy at the moment so I probably won’t be back to discuss Hungerford in the near future. If Carolyn has another show on psyops at a later date please come back as a guest because despite my scepticism of what you and Don had to say about Sandy Hook and Hungerford it was a very interesting show.
Fair enough Carolyn, it would be cool if you scheduled another show on Sandy Hook later in the year when more evidence has come to light. Hopefully by then emotions will have calmed a little and the discussion will be a little less heated. 😉
As I said to Martin, I am very sceptical about some of the theories surrounding these events but they do make for very interesting radio shows.
Carolyn, I just wanted to add a comment responding directly to this show. I am amazed and shocked at your guests naivety. IT’s beyond comprehension. This man, Hadley, is making assumptions on the whole month of media lies and inconsistencies based on just listening to a radio on the 1st day? WOW!
Let me help him out. I’d suggest he listen to the many excellent podcasts and videos that have dissected the 100s of lies and anomalies in the case. Of the many I have listened to, I think these 2 are the best. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GKSUs569Y-k
BTW, does this man know that NewTown’s population is only 2000?
Wikipedia gives the 2010 Census as 27,560. But other web pages say 1,941 and 1,945 in 2010 & 11. Maybe a difference between the town itself or the incorporated area? Wiki says Newtown was founded in 1705 and later incorporated in 1711. In all that time it hasn’t grown much!
Between 2010 and 2011 it only increased by 4. Wonder why so many new families moved there in 2012? Hmmm?
If Hadding is not writing comments, he’s not reading them either. You can alert him at his public email address: noncounterproductive@gmail.com. He reads that.
BREAKING NEWS: MUST READ
CNN video of police charge at Sandy Hook is not Sandy Hook
Evidence that Anderson Cooper on his CNN “360” news show is smack in the middle of falsifying video footage to create dishonest images of “Sandy Hook.”
Read more: http://www.digitaljournal.com/article/341776#ixzz2Id9Hh0Tu
This is first rate research.
Plus, at 40 seconds into the CNN clip, the police (who look like soldiers in a battle zone) are moving past that Sandy Hook sign that is at the Fire House, not at the school. Most of the footage taken of all the “action” is at the firehouse parking lot, not the school parking lot, where there are only parked cars the whole day. There is one or two rescue/fire dept. vehicles parked way back on the road leading to the school parking lot. You can see that around the 1:l6 mark.
MORE BREAKING NEWS — I’m posting this on two threads:
Today I find more marvelous results of citizen researchers who are not willing to simply believe what the news media tells them.
http://fellowshipofminds.wordpress.com/2013/01/20/ssdi-says-adam-lanza-died-a-day-before-sandy-hook-massacre/
I just came upon this great discovery (above) at Clues Forum http://cluesforum.info/viewtopic.php?f=24&t=1521&start=915, which I have been following — a remarkably helpful site even though not everything posted pans out. But a lot does. They are serious citizen researchers and investigators too.
P. is for Peter, Adam’s father’s name … the one who is a bigwig at General Electric (NBC) and was paying over $200,000 per year in alimony/child support for Nancy Lanza and Adam. We always find that money is a motivator, don’t we?
Was Adam’s body transferred to a Conn. morgue … Nancy Lanza’s too? Because she died on Dec. 14th, one day later, in New Hampshire too. Not in her bed at home in Newtown. News reports based on “friends” said she had gone to New Hampshire, as she sometimes did, for a short (2-day?)getaway and returned home on the evening of the 13th. The hotel records show she checked out that day, but guess she never made it home — except as a corpse.